But this is what I don't understand! So many people say "Don't get a puppy! Don't get a puppy!" but that's all we new people see is available! Every now and then I see somebody's site with something such as "9 month old Show prospect available!" but I can't help but be a bit skeptical, because with everything I've seen/learned/been taught, the whole reason people keep back puppies is to see if they'll turn out...and then at 9 months it's "show prospect available!" Maybe they don't have the room they thought they have, and maybe it didn't turn out the way THEY wanted it to...but how am I supposed to know if it really IS a show quality puppy if they're giving it up at 9 months of age!? It's very confusing, and it makes me very wary, especially after having so many things fall through/go wrong with other breeders/puppies. So people say (using Mo's example) "I would never touch a show prospect at less than a year and one that had good pre-lims", well, you're established, you have connections...you can easily find those dogs. What about the newbie/novice that has NO CLUE?! I would very much like my next prospect to be older, because I just CANNOT deal with the disappointment of ears again if they don't stand, and I'd prefer a bitch unless a dog's testicles have dropped FOR SURE because I don't want to be having that issue again (aka, I'm sick of disappointment), but where do we really look, and how do we really know? - Jackie In a message dated 12/15/2006 7:36:14 PM Central Standard Time, murk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: If you want a show dog, don't start with a baby puppy, or if you insist, > don't blame anyone when the hopes and dreams you had aren't fulfilled. - Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where it's about function, not flash ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================