Here is something to consider OFTEN..I choose a puppy that know one else would ever pick! Most go for the flashy, handsome , caricature of what they think a GSD puppy should look like. More often they are heavy boned, deep bodied..set up they look like a miniature adult dog.If you parade a puppy around that looks like this at a show..people will usually go ape over it( keep in mind that many breeders/handlers bring puppies out at 14-16 weeks to shows as they know this is often the best time for selling them!). Rarely do they consider how the puppy moves or that it may be just a bit "too" perfect..but what they see is that it is simply drop dead gorgeous to look at and personifies the "ideal" puppy. I had an opportunity once to sell a young male..4mos of age to someone I knew. He was a beautiful puppy..perfectly proportioned and was very much like the description I gave above. I told the prospective buyers that I wouldn't sell him because he wasn't going to turn out. I am certain they thought I was nuts at the time or that I was keeping him because he was going to be a "star". However..he didn't turn out. He ended up being too short coupled with a steep croup and more angulation than I prefer. I don't particularly care for "perfect" puppies. Many times perfect puppies are the best they are going to be at that age. When I see a "perfect "puppy..then I expect that all those body parts are going to have to stay EXACTLY in those proportions through out all the different growth stages.There is a really good chance they may not!!! So, with our litters, I prefer to see a puppy with some things to grow into. I cannot speak for other bloodlines, just how I evaluate our litters. Christine > [Original Message] > From: <bnbgsds@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (List)> > Date: 12/16/2006 2:32:45 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was Winners now gambling > > From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx > NOT ALL NICE PUPPIES GROW INTO STARS > No truer words were ever put in print. It took my Cherish until she was 3 plus to not look like crap. She's still not a super super star but she ain't road kill either. > Bob Neiman > -- > Bob Neiman > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================