[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was Tom L's post now extreme
- From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
- To: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>, <Gsdman2@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:58:03 -0800
> Gsdman2@xxxxxxx writes:
> Maybe we should do this the other way around. I'm having trouble
> understanding why "extreme" dogs can't ever use those angles efficiently.
> Could someone > explain why that is? > When it comes to angles in the rear,
specifically turn of stifle, how do you > know what is extreme? After all,
that
joint
bends way past ninety degrees > when the dog sits down, and in most dogs the
leg can stretch out to be > virtually > straight. Are you judging angle by
how the
handler is stacking the dog? .. > maybe even from pictures? > > Tom Langlitz
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> This came up a few weeks ago and rather than repeat it, I'll direct you to
> the book Dog Locomotion And Gait Analysis by Curtis Brown. It is a very
> scientific analysis, lots of studies, charts, experiments, skeletal drawings
> etc.>
> Kathy> > visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_
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Could be the terminology is just that......a "term"........but those dogs
aren't so
much
"EXTREME".......but nicely angulated.
I agree with Tom. An extreme ( nicely angulated ) dog CAN move efficiently
as
long as it also has a great back, powerful quarters and ligamentation and a
long
easy stride with good feet and pasterns. In fact in my opinion, they are
usually
very efficient and take less steps as the flexion of angles propels them
forward.
I think the difference might be in the term extreme, as compared to a dog that
is WAY OVERDONE with weak ligaments, lack of muscle and not clean coming or
going or in the side gait or feet. These dogs are pitiful to watch trying to
gait....the
rear will lift up and down in a pumping action because they cannot open up on
the
forward drive NOR the follow through......their entire gait is
"compensation"......
The books and charts don't mean anything if the dog CAN...or CANNOT move
correctly. Some that are "text book correct" angles cannot move....some can.
Some that are more angulated CAN move beautifully......some cannot. Strength
of the musculature and ligamentation and bone and balanced angles with a good
back
also come into play..........
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
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