Ed there's no "if" to this. In the mid-Atlantic are it IS an urban minority problem. (I guess it depends on the specific neighborhood if we are talking about African American/Latino or both). As you move to the south/south-west it's also a white trash problem. And it's a HUGE problem. As far as being prosecuted "more" w/ "more" people in jail...geeze, coming from CA where you're out of money to house the bad actors you already have, it shouldn't be too hard to figure dog-fighting is way down on the list of offenses to incarcerate someone for. And it's not "just" the fighting, bad as that is; it's the danger to the community as a whole. How'd you like to go and have to serve a warrant in Wilmington DE, Philly, Reading, Allentown, Newark, Camden, Trenton etc. and hear a dog on the other side of the door? Or be a firefighter in the same neighborhood???? Or have a child that can't play outside or walk a few blocks to school???? Our suburban shelters have to keep a close eye on their parking lots. A common scam is for one or more of these low-lifes (or their girlfriend) to wait outside for an individual who is dropping a dog off and try to talk them into giving them the dog w/o going through the shelter's processing, when all the while they want the dog for bait. It's not just pits...hasn't been for a long time. Drive through the back roads of Lancaster County and see all of the signs up for Cane Corsos. Notice the adds in any urban newspaper. It's Huge Ed. Don't doubt it. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 6/12/2009 7:52:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Just because it doesn't make the news is no reason to deny that it goes on...and it is more widespread than I care to think about. Never denied dog fighting goes on, I denied that its an Urban African American problem...criminals in general, and dog fighter criminals in specific are not the brightest folks in the world....if its widespread there would be far more folks in jail...unless of course for some reason or another Law-enforcement officials just wanted to catch Mr. Vick,..that..... would not surprise me one bit...Ed Hill ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================