[ SHOWGSD-L ] was Barbara Amidon / question/ contracts / both sides
- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- To: stormygsd@xxxxxxx, Amytortoise@xxxxxxx, Fior49@xxxxxxx, Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:36:53 EST
In a message dated 12/21/2006 6:29:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
stormygsd@xxxxxxx writes:
so many
people have been sucked in by the "greats".. I know ethics and integrity can
not be forced per se, but it sure might be if these breeders are hit in the
wallet by an informed public.
knowledge is power..declining entries could well be a result of folks simply
losing interest as a result of being sucked dry by the so many unscrupulous
breeders in the dog world..
I could tell you stories of my own personal experiences that would curl your
hair..
Ditto. And it was after the problems I found I was hardly the first that I
felt like screaming at everyone who said, "oh yeah, so and so------", WHY
DIDN'T YOU TELL ME AND SAVE ME THE HEARTACHE AND $$$$$$$????"
(No, they don't involve Barbara)
Here's a thought though, and maybe Peggy or others involved with different
breeds could enlighten us on how the other breeds handle it.
What would happen if we didn't have "show contracts"? I'm not saying there
shouldn't be a minimal health warrantee (mine leave with a vet certificate),
but once a price is agreed upon between the buyer and seller, they take it
home and if it's a star, wonderful! If it isn't, why does it have to turn
into
at best a revolving door back to the breeder, at worst, a lot of acrimony?
I think there would be a whole lot less expectations if the seller was able
to say, "You buy him, he's yours. Good luck, God bless, call me if you have
any questions and if for any reason he doesn't work out to your expectations
and you decide to place him, it's your responsibility to find a nice
companion home." No expectations of a replacement.
(And for a "newbie", if you don't know what you are looking at, bring your
handler. It's actually more important that your handler like the dog than it
is that you like the dog. If they aren't excited about the dog, they most
likely aren't showing the dog.)
Declining entries? Trouble finding show prospects? I think another reason
is because there are so many wonderful companion homes out there (willing to
pay a good price I might add) that instead of dealing with all the nonsense
of "will he turn out", "won't he", "will the buyers handlers, friends, club
members all agree he's a good one or will they withhold approval because the
puppy/young adult didn't come from them", THEN the breeder is expected to take
this young adult back, upset their own household/kennel, all the time wearing
a smile, try to find it a good home, replace it and jump on the whole
merry-go-round AGAIN.....the breeder is thinking geeze, where's that phone
number
for the nice companion home????? The one that's a forever home with no
strings attached???
And Cynthia, I didn't miss the part in your post suggesting breeders hold
them back a bit and then charge more BUT the time that they are being held back
is just the time they need to be socialized, go to class, learn manners, be
housebroken. So here's the choice...does a breeder pass on a nice companion
home, reserve room in their home or kennel for a show prospect for somebody
else, put all of this time and effort into a baby, hope they stay together,
hope they prelim (even with a nice OFA pedigree, they don't always!)? The
companion home won't be there at 8-10-12 months because they want a cuddly 8
week
old. If the dog doesn't turn out OR if the show home doesn't materialize the
breeder will be glad to find a home at that point to give it away.
I know my preference. I'll breed a bitch when I want something for me. I may
keep something to grow out or a co-owner may, but the remaining puppies are
all the same price. Health guarantees only. There are some lovely dogs
laying on couches as a result:)
But I see (and have experienced!) the negatives from both sides. So...how
do other breeds handle it and what if we just did away with the whole show
contract (or expectation), replacement concept?
Kathy
member GSDCA, DVGSDC
three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here!
visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_
(http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/)
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