In a message dated 11/12/2008 12:15:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, EJDegen@xxxxxxx writes: I have no idea on how to make the following suggestion practical, but if people are concerned that there are people voting who are not active participants, then perhaps we require that someone have shown (or even just entered) the national in the venue in which they are voting on within the previous 5 years to be allowed to vote. For example, in 2007, I entered dogs & competed in conformation, herding, agility, obedience & rally. I would then be allowed to vote on judges in those 5 venues until 2012. This way, if someone misses one or two years, they are still able to have a 'voice'. If someone doesn't compete for 5 years within that venue, then they don't need a voice. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So what you are saying you want all new members to be disfranchised until they have been members for at least 5 years or more. It will never fly with AKC and that would not encourage new members to stay in the club. Lee Brown **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================