You NEVER breed a carrier of this type of haemophilia. And the dobie people prove this point. YOU CANNOT FIND A DOBIE that is not overt or a strong carrier in the USA. THey ahve had to import dogs from France to tr= y to get rid of the problem. A BORDERLINE carrier/OVERT can bleed to death during a breeding or heat. And I can tell you, if you own the stud and the bitches starts to bleed ou= t on your during a breeding, it is the most horrible experience you can through= . A big problem I see is crossing American/German lines. One has haemophilia A and one has haemophila B. We will be seeing a lot more bleeders with these crosses - and it will show up three, four generation= s down the road. The AKITA and SHEBA people screen. I have had all my dogs screened at their clinics. They do not breed a carrier. Only way to get rid of this d= isease is not breed a carrier. Dr Zo=EB M Backman http://wynsumgsd.com Support Your Vets and POW/MIAs ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================