[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: veteran and best of breed,

  • From: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx" <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:48:15 -0800 (PST)

Clarify yes,,,, but I am disturbed by the fact that people are arguing about 
the rules and ignoring the point.
 t
Joan F. Fox 
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> From: Paula M. Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:30 AM
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: veteran and best of breed,
> 
>Sorry, but, Veteran's class is judged prior to BOB at All-Breed Shows.  Harley 
>won his 99th and 100th BOB from the Veteran's Class.   (He  is NOT neutered, 
>BTW, so please don't start yet another rumor about him)    :-)  :-)    He also 
>has won Selects over Specials from the Veteran's Class at all-breeds and at 
>specialties.
>
>You are mixing apples and oranges.  Some all-breed shows do have Best 
>Veteran's just as they do Best Puppy, but, even then, the regular Veteran 
>Class is judged prior to the BOB and the winner(s) of the Veteran's class 
>competes in and against the Specials, along with the WD and WB.  (Just as 
>puppies compete for WD/WB before going in for the extra non-regular Best Puppy 
>competition)  They can, and do, go Best of Breed.   Neutered Veteran's can not 
>compete at all-breed shows, only specialties. 
>
>At our National, Veteran's starts at 7, as do most all-breed and specialty 
>shows.  I have never seen a regular all-breed premium list that does not offer 
>Veteran's Classes.
>
>There are Grand Champion points awarded to any Veteran winning BOB, BOS, or 
>Select at any and all dog shows.  The judge does not know if the dog/bitch is 
>a champion or not.  It is up to the AKC to calculate the GCH points.
>
>Does this clarify it at all for you?
>
>Paula, 259 days and counting
>
>Home of 2012 GSDCA Dual Title EXCELLENT Award Recipient, 2 Time AKC JAM/AOE, 
>International Champion, Canadian Champion, & American Silver Grand Champion, 
>Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Original 
>Version), 1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1 
>GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster 
>Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee, Lifetime AKC Eukanuba Invitee. 2 Time Cruft's 
>Invitee.
>
>---------- Original Message ----------
>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:00:27 -0500
>Subject: veteran and best of breed,
>From: Michele Panetta <rockstarshepherds@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>At breed specialties they can have a veteran class starting at age 7plus.
>the winners of these classes dogs and bitches can
>compete for Best Of Breed and can win.  At Nationals the age usually starts
>at 8yrs plus
>There are no veteran classes at all breed shows unless its a special
>competition.  after Best of Breed is chosen the veterans
>compete.  the best Veteran then competes in the Veteran Group.  They go on
>to Best in Show Veteran not the regular Best In Show
>
>Since there are no points from the Best of Breed class most breed clubs
>offer veterans.  They can also earn a JAM (Judges Award of Merit)
>
>We've had a Veteran take Best of Breed and Best Opposite Sex at one of our
>Golden nationals.  I love with they
>can still kick some ass and show they still have it.
>
>Michele
>Rock Star Shepherds
>
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