Actually, AKC Judging Procedures state: "All Champions of Record that are eligible to be entered in Best of Breed/Variety competition are automatically entered in competition for points toward the “Grand Champion” title if they are entered in the Best of Breed class at a dog show. Dogs and bitches that have earned their Championship and are moved up to the Best of Breed class as well as winners from the Non-Regular* classes would be eligible to compete on the day. Neither Winners Dog nor Winners Bitch is eligible to compete for “Grand Champion” points regardless of the circumstances. Class dogs winning BOB/BOV or BOS will not prohibit the awarding of Select Dog/Bitch** to eligible dogs in the ring. Judges and stewards are reminded not to inquire about eligibility. Any Grand Championship points awarded to class winners, non-Champions or dogs that are otherwise ineligible will be administratively disallowed by the AKC." Not eligible is WD and WB. Paula, 258 days and counting Home of 2012 GSDCA Dual Title EXCELLENT Award Recipient, 2 Time AKC JAM/AOE, International Champion, Canadian Champion, & American Silver Grand Champion, Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Original Version), 1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1 GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee, Lifetime AKC Eukanuba Invitee. 2 Time Cruft's Invitee. ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:30:47 -0800 (PST) From: Joannie <gsdmum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: veteran and Select Actually, if you read the AKC instruction regarding Selects, it says (something to the effect of) after choosing BOB, BOW & BOS, the animals eligible for the Select award should be judged. The way it is written, sounds to me like you ask all that are not eligible to retire and then judge the animals that are left in the ring. Joannie Dream Come True GSD - Stockton CA - Home of Jaccar-Rivendell Brianne HT, PT, TC, CGC, ROM; CH Dream Come True-Rivendell Fandango HT, TC; Am GCH / Can CH DCT-Tebe Nobe Me & Bobby McGee, HT, PT,TC, Amateur FVX/MVX / Can CH Norhaus-DCT Floating on Air Tebe Nobe, and too many others to list! http://www.dct-norhaus.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================