[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: unexplained diarrhea - help please
- From: "Liane Fossland" <lfossland@xxxxxxx>
- To: <BarMarGSD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <gretchanya@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:57:22 -0700
Years ago I read an article in which it stated that Ethoxyquin was harmful
to dogs. Can't remember which dog food it was that showed it as one of the
ingredients/supplements. It mentioned that it would or could cause cancer.
Since then I have always carefully checked the ingredients.
Lee F.
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From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Barbara Allen
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:04 AM
To: gretchanya@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: unexplained diarrhea - help please
Sounds like this guy is having trouble maintaing enough healthy bacteria in
the gut. Anytime we use antibiotics, they kill off both bad and good
bacteria. I have used different makers of probiotics and have had the most
success with those found at www.b-naturals.com This company is very
upfront about exactly what is in their products...none of that "I can't tell
you because it's a proprietary formula" crap. (major pet peeve of mine when
companies won't provide hard cold facts about what is in their product)
Yogurt doesn't contain enough good bacteria and Bene-Bac has a low volume of
beneficial bacteria, and contains ingredients which have questionable value.
(vegetable oil, sugar, silicon dioxide, artificial color, Polysorbate 80,
preserved with tertiary butyl hydroquinone and ethoxyquin)
You might want to try a product called Berte's Digestion Blend.
http://www.b-naturals.com/digestion-blend-16-oz-p-101
Digestion Blend contains beneficial bacteria, pancreatic enzymes, amino
acids and medicinal herbs in a convenient powder form. Designed to help heal
the entire gastrointestinal system, this formula is beneficial for dogs
suffering from Irritable Bowel Disease, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Colitis,
GI disorders and chronic diarrhea.
Ingredients: One tablespoon contains:
L-Glutamine (500 mg), Lactobacillus Acidophilus 100 Million CFU (100 mg),
Lactobacillus Bulgaricus 100 Million CFU (75 mg), Streptococcus Themophilus
75 Million CFU (75 mg), Ginger Root (10 mg), N-Acetyl-Glucosamine (50 mg),
L-Glycine (32 mg), Papain (50 mg), Pepsin (100 mg), Pancreatin 4x (100 mg),
Pancrelipase (50 mg), Ox Bile Extract (60 mg), Bromelain (40 mg), Amylase
(30 mg), Trypsin (25 mg) and Betaine (30 mg).
Other Ingredients: Chicken Liver Powder, and Whey
Barb
Cure Ignorance With Knowledge
www.naturalcanines.com
"Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher." William
Wordsworth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Becky T. Dickson" <gretchanya@xxxxxxx>
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:18 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] unexplained diarrhea - help please
> I've got an older dog with unexplained diarrhea, on and off. Please look
> it over. Is there ANYTHING we are missing?? We are running out of time.
>
>
>
> Things we (the vet and I) have tried over the last 11 months, in no
> particular order:
> - Albon
> - Metro (Flagyl)
> - Tylan
> - Panacur
> - Strongid
> - change of kibble
> - raw diet
> - bland diet (boiled burger/rice)
> - canned EN (which made everything far WORSE)
> - Flagyl / Amoxicillin combo (if you haven't tried this, it typically
> works wonders)
> - Clavamox
> - injection of Convenia (a new injectable of cephalosporin that lasts up
> to 2 weeks), followed by a full course of Tylan 48 hours after the
> injection (it worked the first time, then it came back with a vengeance)
> - various forms of kayopectate, liquid and tablet, in ridiculously
> excessive amounts
> - many variations and combinations of all of the above
>
> All that the stool samples and expensive cultures have turned up is a high
> bacteria count, nothing else. We have been treating prophylactically more
> often than not. All blood work is normal. No cancer, thyroid/kidney
> issues, no IBD, etc. Until now, this dog could eat rocks without a worry.
> On exam, the gut is swollen and inflamed, but not painful enough for this
> dog to show it.
> There has been no major stress, no major changes, the dog is not over-fed
> or under-fed (except when we pulled food for 24 hours to give the stomach
> a rest). We gave Benebac, then tried yogurt (to make up for whatever the
> antibiotics killed in the gut).
>
> The first bout lasted several months, but eventually was "cured" with the
> injection/Tylan/yogurt; the dog was still eating regular diet. Lost a few
> pounds, but it wasn't horrible. This time (about 4 months later), we have
> dropped about 15 pounds - and we didn't have it to lose.
>
>
>
> Any and all suggestions appreciated.
>
>
>
> ?Becky T. Dickson
> www.GretchAnya.com
> www.GSDbyDesign.com
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