Sandra posts... It says that faults of gait are VERY SERIOUS FAULTS I can find no place where is states that "type" or "style" are to be considered nearly as serious. Paul adds... Bravo Sandy...and you would be such a wise woman who would consult the Standard for the appropriate definitions. The dog was bred to work and that requires movement of an exceptional nature to complete the task... Ask yourselves this people on "Da List"...if you were a sheep herder with a head of 200 sheep what would you want? Would you want a stallion male who took twice as many steps to herd you sheep or a more refined dog that could cover ground in big gulps? Conformation requires we judge the entire dog and if faults of gait are "Very serious faults"...they should be judged accordingly without being a fault Judge. There are a lot of dogs that exhibit such gaiting abilities that no one would ever doubt were a standout male or female GSD. Christine waxed eloquently earlier about the ability to obtain type over motion. 1 generation to rekindle the GSD type and perhaps many to regain lost motion. Quality motion comes ONLY from quality structure. Function follows Form and correct form is the only thing that can give you correct function...i.e....motion. JMO...as always... Paul ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================