Marie Valerio and her husband Vinnie were wonderful, warm people. They lived in a private home in Brooklyn with a few kids, and some German Shepherd Dogs. Vinnie worked for the Dept of Sanitation and I often saw him because his route included the school that I worked at. Marie showed all of their dogs. They had little extra money but a lot of heart. They finally got a dog who started to really win in the show ring. He was a lovely dog sired by Ch Falco Of Thunder Rock out of one of their bitches. He picked up about ten points but no majors until Vinnie Colombraro started handling him and got him a four point major. These points were all acquired at local shows.We were all very excited for them. That same week Marie was diagnosed with Breast Cancer. She was forty years old. Two months later she was dead. The dog was never shown again. The family dropped out of dogs. Danny and Connie Vail lived in Colorado. They owned a dog called Hy Hopes Cenator of Lakeside.He was Br ed by John De Hope and Connie Beckhardt and was Sired by Ch. Falco Of Thunder Rock and his dam was Ch Coberts Jolene. He was originally owned by Dan Dwier. In fact he was Dannys first German SHepherd. When Danny got Melissa he resold the dog to the Vails. He was a wonderful handsome dog with a fabulous temperament. The Vails sent him to me for three months. I was living in the ground floor of my two family house in a two and a half room apartment that had a long dog run in the back. I had several dogs of my own but all of then got along. I got him OFA certified and John De Hope showed him at a few specialty shows placing in 150 dog entries. With the help of Jean Kuchar I got him bred twice. That was how I met Tish Walker. Sorry to say her bitch did not take but the other one had lovely puppies. Jim Moses told me that he could finish that dog for me.I told him i would ask the owners. The Vails could not afford it. John and I were doing it for nothing. The Stud fee pa id for the OFAs. I sent the dog home and Don Kille took him and put fourteen points on him but could not get him done. Majors kept breaking. Finally the Vails dropped out of Dogs. Why do I tell these stories. These were good people with really nice dogs and they are gone from the Breed. Thanks to the Fords, Mary Vurma and Jim Moses the blood of Falco Of Thunder Rock still runs in our present day dogs. Would there were more of it.The dog sired thirty ROM point wnning progeny and never earned an ROM because the people who loved him could not afford the title. His full sister Ernestine never did either although some people list her as having earned one. Not true yet if it were not for them there would be very few German Shepherd Dogs around today. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================