In a message dated 7/3/2005 11:21:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dankagsd01@xxxxxxx writes: Evan, You forgot one very important thing. After you have stayed up four days and four nights without blanket or pillow and you can't keep your eyes open another minute, that is when the whelping will begin. Carol W Last June, when Stevie was due, I had spent four nights with little to no sleep. She would stay in her box and tear it up. I was convinced each of those four nights was "THE night". There was a pretty large window for when she would deliver, and I was looking at the possibility of several more nights in the garage on a lawn chair and at that point, I was a walking zombie. A wise woman suggested I put Stevie in the master bedroom in a soft sided crate, saying, she'd certainly wake me up if it was "time". I folded several old quilts under the fabric crate on top of the carpet, Stevie was comfortable but still anxious. She and JR had had quite a romance from the start, so I left him with us, and as she lay in the crate, he would lay on the outside and against it, so except for the wall of fabric, they snuggled. He looked worried, but she rested. Sure enough, we both knew when it was time. Try the fabric crate idea. Worked like a charm for me:) Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================