Sheila is correct that no one method works for all dogs. They don't all read the same books! <G> However, there are laws of learning that apply to all dogs and, in fact, to all species. If a person learns those laws of learning and how to apply them, anything the dog is physically and mentally capable of doing can be taught to him. A good reference, in plain English, for the laws is in Karen Pryor's "Don't Shoot the Dog". No, it's not a dog training book (although the latest edition does have dog training added to it), but it is the best dog training book I've ever read. And I've read a great many of them. Sue Mazzeo Msg: #7 in digest Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:05:14 -0800 (PST) From: sheila lieberman <dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: training Oh, for the love of G-d, have any of you out there who are not trainers any clue how few trainers bother to treat dogs as individuals? I can tell you from a trainer's experience not many. I just did a lesson where the previous dog was put down for biting. They used a very popular trainer here in town. He took the dog and taught it to sit, down, stay and a few other basics. But never taught them how to deal with this dog. I am now dealing with the new dog. She is, of course, completely different in personality. But the owners are not. And they could make her as bad as the first one. So I stepped in to explain how to lead rather than be bitten for following. Most trainers have one way of training all dogs. But it works about 60 percent of the time and that is enough for most. I go for 100 % by catering my words and deeds to the dog and family in front of me, not some program that is prewritten. But I also find myself repeating myself a lot more than I like. People can be so predictable about their itty bitty poo's. sheila Ginger Cleary <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Barb is so right. NO two dogs are alike... in ANY breed. No one training method, regardless of whether it is "traditional", clicker, treat, etc is going to work with every dog. GOOD trainers tailor their training to the DOG. Then, if you are running classes for "pet" people, you also have to tailor your methods for the owners . Ginger Cleary Rome, GA www.rihadin.com Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================