Oh, for the love of G-d, have any of you out there who are not trainers any clue how few trainers bother to treat dogs as individuals? I can tell you from a trainer's experience not many. I just did a lesson where the previous dog was put down for biting. They used a very popular trainer here in town. He took the dog and taught it to sit, down, stay and a few other basics. But never taught them how to deal with this dog. I am now dealing with the new dog. She is, of course, completely different in personality. But the owners are not. And they could make her as bad as the first one. So I stepped in to explain how to lead rather than be bitten for following. Most trainers have one way of training all dogs. But it works about 60 percent of the time and that is enough for most. I go for 100 % by catering my words and deeds to the dog and family in front of me, not some program that is prewritten. But I also find myself repeating myself a lot more than I like. People can be so predictable about their itty bitty poo's. sheila Ginger Cleary <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Barb is so right. NO two dogs are alike... in ANY breed. No one training method, regardless of whether it is "traditional", clicker, treat, etc is going to work with every dog. GOOD trainers tailor their training to the DOG. Then, if you are running classes for "pet" people, you also have to tailor your methods for the owners . Ginger Cleary Rome, GA www.rihadin.com Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:30 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #3516 BUT THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, IS THAT I NEVER BRED NOR SHOW-TRAINED ANY TWO THAT WERE EXACTLY ALIKE..THEY ALL HAD THEIR LITTLE DIFFERENCES AND LIKES AND DISLIKES AND WHAT I CALL THEIR 'PRIVATE DRAGONS'...JUST LIKE PEOPLE. WHEN YOU KNEW WHAT BUTTONS TO PUSH, YOU COULD CONTROL AND GUIDE THEM INTO DOING WHATEVER YOU WANTED..BECAUSE GS'S WANT TO PLEASE THEIR MASTERS...THOSE THEY LOVE AND ARE DEVOTED TO PLEASING.. BUT SO MANY TIMES THESE TRAINING SCHOOLS PUT OUT PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY AS TRAINERS WHO ARE WHAT I CALL..'ONE TRICK PONIES'...THEY ATTEMPT TO TRAIN EVERY DOG EXACTLY ALIKE WITH A SET FORMULA AND PROGRAM... IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.. IT TAKES PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF EACH DOG AND TIME!!!! YOU HAVE TO GET INSIDE THAT DOG'S HEAD AND LIVE WITH IT AND WORK WITH IT AND AROUND IT, AND EARN YOUR POSITION OF TRUST AND DEVOTION... THEN, THEY WOULD TURN CARTWHEELS FOR YOU, IF THEY COULD!!! JMO...BARB W. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================