How about something less stylized, less artificial, less FAST. This is naturally a beautiful, balanced, athletic breed. It can be appreciated in a free stack, at reasonable speeds and without lots of Lady Clarol. I would much rather have them shown at moderate speeds for longer periods of time, without a tight lead to hold them together, allowed to stand naturally, and would appreciate whatever might really be there. With so many of our handlers getting bad knees, maybe this will just naturally happen. Ruth --- On Fri, 8/22/08, RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx <RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx <RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: thoughts to ponder To: rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx, LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx, TISHW@xxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, mary@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:02 AM In a message dated 8/22/2008 12:53:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx writes: Maybe if the style of showing were to go back to being a natural presentation we would get more owner-handlers again. What, if I may ask, is a 'natural' presentation? Randall Chesnut **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================