Re: thisa and thata Whata you buying into this for... when you coulda been doing something = much better? Helen Franklin=20 -----Original Message----- From: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 PM To: showgsd-l digest users Subject: showgsd-l Digest V1 #225 showgsd-l Digest Mon, 29 Nov 2004 Volume: 01 Issue: 225 In This Issue: #1: From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: thisa and thata #2: From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: thisa and thata #3: From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: thisa and thata #4: From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: thisa and thata #5: From: Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx Subject: Re: thisa and thata #6: From: Rikers123@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: thisa and thata #7: From: MissMic9@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: thisa and thata ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:49:15 -0800 (PST) From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: thisa and thata Norma, give me a break. Now you're telling us that you went that far to build a major for the other exhibitors and you didn't go to win = yourself. You are a true sportsman. Ann www.geocities.com/edangsd=20 NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:last words 1. Oh yes WE HELD FIVE MAJORS FOR THEM BEFORE PULLING. the shows are = still on today. I am home. You would think some one would at least say Thank = you for coming. 2.My bitch shows better when she hears clapping. Shes a ham. She is = always on but more so when the audience is on too. Most SHOW DOGS DO! I have no trouble getting other breed people to do it but its nice when shepherd people do too.I know one exhibitor who comes to every show with a chorus = of twelve clapping screaming footstampers.They are called a Fan Club in = other milieus. I do not know if they are paid or not but there was one group = of Kuvasz people at the last show who almost ripped out my ear drums. 3. the only one whose opinion on behavior matters is AKC and in this = case the REP agreed with me.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the = original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of = any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND = of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.=20 ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN = ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS = EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL = BE PROSECUTED.=20 For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D ------------------------------ Msg: #2 in digest Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:51:07 -0800 (PST) From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: thisa and thata Sounds like Norma and Terry should get together. Ann www.gewocities.com/edangsd=20 VSabiaB@xxxxxxx wrote:In a message dated 11/29/2004 12:34:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > 2. i brought the dog that that held the majors. all the others were=20 > local > entries.they ignored my bitch i pulled my entries and they had the = nerve to=20 > get mad. these people act like they are entitled to your entry and who = the hell=20 > are you Geesh, I'm I reading this right? You pulled your dog the next day = because the=20 judges ignored her and broke the Major? You got to be kiddin right? Vicki=20 Von Charisma German Shepherds=20 http://members.aol.com/VAbby17801/VCGShepherds.html Lordstown,Ohio =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the = original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of = any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND = of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.=20 ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN = ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS = EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL = BE PROSECUTED.=20 For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: thisa and thata Norma, you were rude to one of Penny's dogs, or doesn't that count? Ann NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:I HELD FIVE MAJORS FOR THEM before I pulled. = I have never been rude to anybodys dog. I always clap for all specials and = in the winners class so the dog could get the best of winners we declassed = our bitch so the dog could get a major. In fact we had this big ringside discussion about whether judges could clap for other peoples dogs ask = the roots about that. besides I was the out of towner there too. I only came 3000 miles for that one but I like the judging panel and i made the = choice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "insitegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx"=20 Date: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:35 pm Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] thisa and thata >=20 > I remember seeing you at a show a few weeks ago and didn't see you > clapping for my bitch, or others should they have pulled cause you=20 > were rude to my dog or others and break the major that your bitch=20 > won. Of course not. Sometimes we are in our own world watching=20 > our dogs, our friends dogs. And sometimes we hav e our favorites.=20 > If I pulled everytime some one didn't support me and my dogs or > make me feel welcome I wouldn't be showing very much. Its called=20 > good sportmanship and helping build majors that are so hard to come=20 > by. In fact at those shows we didn't move our bitch up(she=20 > finished 2 wks before) one day cause the major was so close we=20 > didn't want to break the major. We should all try to help one=20 > another and stop thinking of ourselves only. > Pat >=20 > ________________________________________________________________ > NetZero Platinum $9.95. > NetZero HiSpeed $14.95. > Sign up Today at http://www.netzero.net or > Visit Sam Goody, Suncoast or MediaPlay Stores. >=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the = original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of = any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND = of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.=20 ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN = ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS = EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL = BE PROSECUTED.=20 For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D ------------------------------ Msg: #4 in digest Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:59:34 -0800 (PST) From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: thisa and thata Your handler wins all the time over more deserving dogs = NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:since some people seem to regard what i did as nothing i am going = to tell the whole story 1. I live in New York 2.my dog and bitch were = entered in Savanah. I did not make the entries 3.my dog is out of coat and too = thin and home for RR. I was not showing him at all for the next two months. = 4. I got a phone call monday before thanksgiving asking me to please come = down (1000miles)because if I did the major would hold 5. i had already made = other plans for Thanksgiving.Its a big thing in our family I was not planning = to come. 6. I rearranged my very busy schedule and drove 20 hours each way = with three dogs. I am not young 7. It was a hard trip. I was exhausted. My = dog who is an open dog was entered in Am bred for that show. my bitch was in open and I had another bitch along because there was no way to arrange boarding her at such short notice and would you like to pay my bills for that? 8. I did not expect to win with the dog. I had a lovely open bitch = in prime condition and ther e was not one person there at that show who = even thought to clap for her to show she was welcome. 9. A bitch who spooked = on exam was placed in front of her at the very first show. This bitch = should have been either excused or put at the end of the line. I have it on = film 10. Do i give a damn if said judge or any other person gets mad. I sure = as hell do not. 11.Georgia used to be the home of southern hospitality. I = did not see a single sign of that here. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the = original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of = any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND = of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.=20 ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN = ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS = EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL = BE PROSECUTED.=20 For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D ------------------------------ Msg: #5 in digest From: Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:09:27 EST Subject: Re: thisa and thata IIn a message dated 11/29/2004 5:11:50 PM Central Standard Time,=20 GSD0110@xxxxxxx writes: > Remember back to when you were new and think what it would have meant = > to > you=20 > for someone to take you under their wing. >=20 I sure do remember those days......................we were all "newbies" = at=20 one time, let's not forget that. Gary Passing it on... I remember when Ruth Schriefer of Von Schrief kennels became My = Mentor in=20 1956. I must have been born under a Lucky Star!! =20 But it was all different then...Breeders became Mentors to all who = bought=20 pups or older Shepherds from them.=20 It kinda went with the terriority and we all assumed the responsiblity = of =20 passing on the education and willingness to share and help.that we had received.=20 =20 In fact, when I asked Ruth once what I could ever do to pay her back = for all=20 she had shared and given so generously to me..she just smiled and her = blue=20 eyes looked right into mine and she said 'Just pass it On, Honey, Just = pass it=20 On.' I've tried. Barb williams ------------------------------ Msg: #6 in digest From: Rikers123@xxxxxxx Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:22:26 EST Subject: Re: thisa and thata Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit =20 =20 In a message dated 11/29/2004 3:10:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, =20 NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx writes: 11.Georgia used to be the home of southern hospitality. I did not see a = single sign of that here. Well that's too bad. We ALWAYS put out the welcome mat here so don't = blame=20 the state because you felt unwelcome at an all breed show. =20 Denise Groenewald=20 _http://www.greenwoodshepherds.com_ (http://www.greenwoodshepherds.com/) = =20 Am/Can Ch Greenwood's Colrichter TC HIC OFA, Ch Helmic's Cassandra OFA H & E , Ch Ken-Delaine's Trixie Of Dixie OFA = H & E, Ch Greenwood's Talina HIC OFA H & E, Ch Greenwood's Time For Me To = Fly HIC=20 OFA H & E, Ch Greenwood's Tyanna HIC OFA H & E ------------------------------ Msg: #7 in digest From: MissMic9@xxxxxxx Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:24:34 EST Subject: Re: thisa and thata In a message dated 11/29/2004 3:11:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > . Do i give a damn if said judge or any other person gets mad. I sure=20 > as > hell do not. > 11.Georgia used to be the home of southern hospitality. I did not see = a=20 > single sign of that here. >=20 . Hi Norma, I live in Georgia ( was not entered in the show) and find you attitude = very=20 offensive.=A0 It would be like me categorizing all New Yorkers behaving = as you..=A0=20 NOT----=A0 One generally gets what one gives and given the tone of your = email=20 no wonder not one wanted to be around you.=A0 I believe we all know = judging does=20 not always go how we think it should but your behavior reflects on you = not=20 your dog.=A0 Seem like you all lost this week end-=A0=A0 Too bad as you = were in some=20 very good company and you missed a great opportunity to broaden your = scope and=20 instead you have chosen to narrow it.=A0 Again your loss. I am proud to have moved to Georgia,by choice, many years ago and am a member=20 of the German Shepherd Dog Club of Atlanta.=A0=20 Just my opinion- Joan Turner ------------------------------ End of showgsd-l Digest V1 #225 ******************************* ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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