1. Any judge who does not pay attention to temperament will not get an entry from me. I think we all have the right to make that decision. Handlers may be forced to show under some of them but we have the right to refuse to allow them to show our dogs under those judges. 2.The Utah show site is a really good one for a National. You would all like it. It is very exhibitor friendly. Its actually in the exact center of the Western third of America. They usually have six majors there in April in four days which is very cost efficient. It is unlikely to draw many spectators but the site Saint Louis used also drew very few. It certainly deserves consideration. I did fly there and it was not complicated. Actually the largest number of active breeders live in Wisconsin(never hosted a national) and largest entry in the country in 03 (the last year i was on the west coast for the year) was in Northern California.(which also never hosted a national) The highest point scale is in the n ortheast(new york and New England) They also have the highest tax rate.they have not hosted a national since 1980. 3.The Eukanuba Challenge is very different from Westminster so it is time they stopped televising it like it is. I sat with the general crowd for part of the evening and most of them did not understand the purpose of most of the events being televised. They had no idea what Bred By meant or what the requirements for junior handling were.The interruptions to the judging by the TV Ads were very irritating. They do not do it at other sports venues. Can you imagine them stopping a game or a race for a beer commercial? The Obedience events on the first floor drew enormous day time crowds and not one minute of live televised time. 4. The new CHAMP (that rhymes with Kamp) is home resting up, wondering what all that white stuff is and enjoying the peace and quiet with no kids to suporvise. she is due in season any day and then there will be more kids not to mention the bigger ones will be coming home from camp. Let her enjoy it while she can. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================