[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: think before you post

  • From: "MARGERY GOLANT" <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bethallen0160@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:48:00 -0400

Thank you Beth for pointing out what should be on a huge sign over the door
of Showgsd-l (f we had a door !) - Showgsd-l is an advanced-level discussion
list for, by and about conformation, for, by and about the people involved
at that level.  From a desire to be inclusive rather than exclusive, and to
provide mentoring to novices, the doors are open to others to join - to
learn, to absorb and to listen, not to criticize or lecture.

Not to sound elitist, but why would a confomation novice (or someone who
does not even do conformation) consider themselves qualified to lecture
people who are pillars of the conformation world, who have been immensely
successful in conformation, and who are known and respected for those
accomplishments ?  In the 'old days' there was no way to gain insights of
the pillars of the conformation fancy unless they wrote books or lectured -
now due to the existence of Showgsd-l you are able to read the input of, and
to have the benefit of learning from, the Helen Fishers, the Fred Migliores,
the Barbara Amidons, the Bill Gishs ( I am not including the names of anyone
who is a candidate for anything this year !! LOL).  I only wish there had
been such an opportunity when I first became interested in the conformation
world in 1975.  Of course, there was not, and I learned whatever I learned,
however I could, virtually all of what I did learn I learned the hard way,
which was costly, slowly and painfully.  You are so right that the right
approach for someone who is a novice is to read, absorb, and learn from the
people who have dedicated their lives to the conformation fancy.

To all: Please read and re-read Beth's post and remember it each and every
time you think of posting, before you post.

Margery Golant


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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:57 AM
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] think before you post


To all you fellow novices out there,
I too am a novice in the field of showing GSDs. I do not post often to this
list for a couple of reasons. First I am very humbled to be in the presence
of people I consider icons and legends in the breed. There is a vast amount
of experience and knowledge on this list and it was not gained easily. Many
years of hard work, heartbreak, time and money have gone into their breeding
progams and campaigning of their animals. I never want to appear to know
more or have a negative opinion of what they have done. On the contrary, I
admire and respect people who have dedicated their lives to thier passion
which is breeding and showing GSDs. Also I don't want these icons to have a
negative opinion of me if I ever get the priviledge of meeting them. 
Before you post to the list, imagine that you are at a podium in a large
conference room. In the front row sits Carlyn M., Tom C., Tom L., Evan and
Tedi G., Christine and Steve G., Kathaleen S., Fred M., Mike and Sheila M.
etc., etc. Now, would you have the guts to say the same thing to them face
to face that you want to post to the list, because in essence that is what
you are doing. This internet medium gives us great opportunities to put our
foot in our mouths because we are not face to face with who we are talking
to. Type it, read it, leave it, think about it, go back to it and then if
you are very sure it is a good post, send it. Beth



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