I am gonna post this, but am not sure where it will lead. I may even get yelled at. There are judges out there that I have the utmost respect for that put up quality animals. Dave Rinke, Helen Miller-Fisher, Fred Migliore, Leon, Cappy and Gloria, Joan, (forgive me if I 'butchered' the spelling of anyone's name) and there are others to numerous to mention) These judges know a good dog They have been around for years and know a good front and rear. Go to shows and watch what these judges put up and you can learn a lot and see good dogs. Cynthia --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================