Margery, can you tell us off hand approximately what the cost is per year for these meetings, except National. Morgan Margery Golant <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Fortune 500 Companies use electronic meetings extensively now - there are a number of ways to do this very successfully and at much less cost. The expense, the disruption and the difficulties involved in long distance travel are reduced or eliminated. What the GSDCA spends for Board meetings every year is very large, and much of it would be unnecessary, Other than the meeting after the National, there is no reason we could not do all the rest via technology, and even that could be attended electronically. I too teach online - I teach Paralegals for Kaplan University - and so am very familiar with distance learning, so do know also how this can be, and is being, done. When Ginny was President, as Tish pointed out, I had the misfortune to be afflicted with Shingles, on my face and in my eye. It was incredibly horrible and very painful. If any of you have ever had this or know anyone who had, you know how awful it is. I was not allowed to go anywhere, and could not have had I wished, due to the extreme discomfort, the constant need for medication, etc. However, due to the new electronic recording equipment which I had obtained, I was able to hook up electronically, to record the entire meeting, to participate in the discussions, and to do the Minutes, just as if I had been present physically. My recollection is that Kris was extremely peeved at that. It is impossible to understand why it would have been better for anyone or for the GSDCA had I been unable to attend as I did, due to this malady. We could save a great deal of money if we reduced the need for the Board to travel so extensively. I know that Joan has had it as her goal to have a few standing National sites, to use and re-use, and resolving that constant issue would further reduce the need. It would also be entirely feasible, if the Board met "electronically" to provide access to these meetings for any (or all) of the members to attend. In fact, I had developed a way to upload the sound recordings of the current meetings to the GSDCA web site, almost real-time, so that any member who was interested could hear, and had a test of that ready to go for the Board in May 2007, but Lew killed it. I guess having everyone able to hear the recording would just not fit with the ongoing sabotage and the claims that what was in the Minutes was not what occurred at the meeting... Being an Officer or Board member should not be an endurance test. Some of us have more or less health, family and personal issues, and these are things that we cannot always control. However, that does not have to stop us from being of service to the GSDCA. Laurie, I wholeheatedly agree with your suggestions - all of these things can and should be done. This is the 21st Century, the GSDCA can and should benefit from all the advances in technology which now exist. The membership can and should be able to attend all meetings, the Board could meet as often as necessary, the Executive Committee could (and should) cease to exist, and we could save lots of money for much more important expenditures, all of which would benefit the GSDCA. Margy -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zoa Rockenstein Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:24 PM To: pruett@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: the use of technology to reduce travel costs and facilitate club management Laurie, These are excellent suggestions!!! I, also, teach for a university and use online technologies. Regional clubs could get on board with these as well. We need more than a website! Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Laurie Pruett To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:41:51 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] the use of technology to reduce travel costs and facilitate club management >Tish, I agree. It's not just about missing, but about why and what >arrangements you make to get your job done, be it through asking >someone to fill in or as Margy did, doing it over conference call. In my professional life in higher education, I've been heavily involved in distance learning - the use of technology to facilitate teaching and learning for students and faculty separated by distance. I also managed a unit of people located all over the state of Maine. We routinely met via conference call and also by polycom (involves the ability to both see and hear the people you are meeting with). It seems to me that we should, as a club, investigate whether the use of these kinds of technologies (which are now widely available and have come down dramatically in cost) to help us to address the following: (1) substitute at least one face-to-face meeting of the GSDCA board - meeting instead via technology and saving all those travel costs (2) doing away with the need for an executive committee since it is so easy to engage the entire board in any ad hoc decisions that might need to be made. Arranging conference calls is quick and easy. (3) perhaps allowing our board to meet more than 4 times a year (since the face-to-face meetings are so long and the agenda's are packed). Just some thoughts.... Laurie Pruett ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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