Was not at the show, and I bought the Streaming Video on Thursday when I decided I would not make it to this year's National.....if what has been alleged really happened....and I assume it was taped via Streaming Video is there a chance of the points being taken and awarded to the Reserve Winners Dog?..Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: foxhavengs@xxxxxxx, nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:37:07 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: the national A dog that bites another dog is not necessarily DQ'd...probably excused, tho. A dog doesn't have to actually bite the judge or the handler or any other human, either...just attempt it. The dog MUST be DQ'd. Those are AKC rules.   While there are occasions when someone may think a dog tried to bite and the judge thinks otherwise, in this case, from what I am hearing from all kinds of people all over the country, there was no doubt here...the dog tried to bite, and did so more than once with the same judge.   I wasn't there...just sayin'...this is what I'm hearing, and I've been hearing it since it happened.  Apparently there was no doubt...and the dog should have been DQ'd...AND put out of the ring.......... It had also better be in the report the show secretary sends to AKC, because I'm sure AKC is going to hear about this, if only because so very many people are talking (and writing) about it.........the judge is sure to get a letter from AKC about it, asking why the dog was not disqualified....... Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <foxhavengs@xxxxxxx> >  its an AKC rule. Any dog that attempts to bite the judge or another dog or a handler in the ring must be disqualified. Any exhibitor at any show may report this to AKC and I have done so in the past. My own personal rule is if a judge fails to do this they never get a nomination or an entry from us. > Denise Fox ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org  SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================