Could not agree more Norma I do not think that Temperament has improved I think Drugs have improved have a rule around here and its an AKC rule. Any dog that attempts to bite the judge or another dog or a handler in the ring must be disqualified. Any exhibitor at any show may report this to AKC and I have done so in the past. My own personal rule is if a judge fails to do this they never get a nomination or an entry from us. Denise Fox Foxhavengs Home of GCH.Foxhaven Good Girl Gone Bad of Windfall (AKA Rihanna) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx> Sender: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:39:33 To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] the national back from four days in the sun . this is my second flight to Kansas. I made my first flight in 1966 with best friend Marie Vulpi her dad Tony husband Frank son Frankie .and her select dog. It was the very first time i flew to a dog show. I did not know anybody. I showed a puppy who was brought to the show by a handler. This time I knew everybody. My dog had taken points in Topeka. I flew in with my bitch who is minored out. Had a dozen handlers asking to show her. Had dinner with Cappy and Gloria Frank and Kris and Lunch with Libby. Watched Specials with Madge kling and we had the best seats in the house. Gave hugs to Butchie loeb Joe Bihari Jack Newton and Fran Ford the most senior of our citizens. WAs delighted to see Fred fnally get his just reward. He is one of the great Breeders of all time. I am sure that Lang Skarda was looking down from above. I had a very good time at THE FRANK FASANO NATIONAL. Ask fred about The Fasano Salute. There were just two things that have b othered me. So thought I would mention them. I do not think that Temperament has improved I think Drugs have improved.We have a rule around here and its an AKC rule. Any dog that attempts to bite the judge or another dog or a handler in the ring must be disqualified. Any exhibitor at any show may report this to AKC and I have done so in the past. My own personal rule is if a judge fails to do this they never get a nomination or an entry from us. I was sorry to lose two judges in KC who i have always liked. there are more then 500 shepherd judges and plenty of them are around to show under. The second thng is the senior veterans class. people have been bringing old dogs on long trips which can be very stressful. How many senior veteran winners have lived to make the THirteen club. Show them closer to home. I would especially very personally like to congratulate Bill Tank for taking me back to Annaheim where he showed two litter mates for me a sable novice bitch who made the thirteen club and a Black and red American Bred Dog who made the final cut under fran ford. Bills charge for that show forty dollars a class because it was just a local dog show for us. Thanks to everyone for all the fun in the sun after weeks of rain. -- norma hansburg www.normahansburg.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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