Laura, you are right, it is a violation of our rights. But that will not stop such bills from being passed. It will however, unless martial law is declared, allow all these stupid bills to be struck down with enough money for the constitional lawyers to fight all these foolish useless and unenforcable bills. Evan said a week or so ago that he is ready to fight the CA bill. Who will fight for NJ? Stopping these bills is hard, striking them down will be easy, if there is money to pay for it. sheila grnram415@xxxxxxx wrote: ANYONE can avoid having a search warrant if they "believe" that the premises are the scene of possible animal cruelty--maybe if you don't even own a pet, they could "believe" that you have debarked animals in cruel conditions and be exempt from prosecution for slander and libel. Peggy, That statement just doesn't make sense.? Do you mean that?AC can get a search warrant based only on a belief?? That would most definitely violate our 4th amendment rights.? There must be some evidence or proof to obtain a search warrant.? I have written/obtained many search warrants?and it's not as easy as one would think.? A complaint is not enough.? There then needs to be an investigation and something that shows that initial complaint has some merit.??Unless?there are extenuating circumstances, Judge's are not so quick to dole out search warrants.? And believe me, they will need one to come on my property.?? The NJ Bill has many problems and errors but main focus seems to be NO definition of what constitutes real animal abuse and how it relates to the normal show/pet dog owners.? Like AB1634, it is too vague and doesn't address the real issues. Laura Thomas??? --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================