[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: the Hunte membership
- From: "" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Peggy" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:47:44 -0600
Peggy..In my opinion..you said it all in a paragraph..for those of you who
call..Hunte a wholesaler and not a broker( this is pure semantics)..do as
Peggy states contact the Hunte Corp and place your puppies through them,.
For those of you who state "Go to his website..his place looks nice.." what
the hell do you expect the website to show..dog carcasses in a ditch..or
now being loaded into the incinerator? dogs in small cages with nails so
long they caught in the grating.Dogs.crapping on each other because the
crates are stacked on top of the other and the crap falls through the
grating? Abusers rationalize..In my opinion, Hunte shows dogs to make
himself look good and to show the dog world her "cares" about the sport of
showing dogs..he donates money or offers his assistance for "causes" so
people will say "Gee what a nice guy he is.." he has a PR person BECAUSE HE
NEEDS ONE! He has a slick presentation because he knows hard questions are
going to be coming his way..he is well versed and well practiced and well
coached. Here is an analogy..let's say I traffic in drugs..I buy my drugs
direct from the source..high quality, not cut with anything..the best you
can buy..however, I am not a user. I in turn distribute them. I never see
the faces of the users..I don't have any human contact..that way I can say
that I did not directly contribute to their use.. I am only the middle man.
I have done quite well in my business. I have a front..that I can launder
my money through as some people just wouldn't understand the nature of my
real business. I even donate to drug prevention programs, and other
substance abuse programs and have also donated to many community
projects..so basically at the end of the day..I am a nice guy because look
at all I do for others with my drug money and after all..I am not user, I
am just providing a needed service to the masses who want a high quality
product..it is their problem if they become addicts..I have nothing to do
with that. Can anyone see the parallel here? this is not about dogs vs
drugs..but about the mind set and rationalization people will use to
justify their actions. Most need justification when they are involved in
something illicit...Christine
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
> [Original Message]
> From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Showgsd-l <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2/5/2007 11:47:19 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] the Hunte membership
>
>
> There are several misunderstandings about why the admission of Hunte
> to membership is so offensive to so many. Believe me, there are members
> who are not posting but who are incensed about this...not just those of
> us who have been posting.
>
> Most of us have never met this man, and therefore, we can have no
> objection to him as a person. If he wants to join a dog club, we know
> it is his right to seek membership in any organization he is interested
> in. Of course, there is the little matter of why on earth is he
> interested in being a member of the GSDCA, but none of us know the
> answer to that question, and I doubt he'll ever answer it to our
> satisfaction.
>
> I can't speak for anyone else, so remember, my comments are my own
here.
>
> . There will always be those who breed too much, who don't suss out
> prospective buyers of their puppies well enough, there will always be
> those who don't care for their dogs properly, or at least not up the
> standards of others...and on the other hand, there will always be people
> who will be more than willing to name the ones who breed too much, who
> don't care where their puppies go, and whose dogs appear to be neglected
> (by someone's standards, at least). None of those things is the issue
> here. The objections to Hunte have to do with the facts...not emotions,
> except that the facts do stir the emotions of some of us. (Obviously,
> not all.)
>
> Some of us have been involved in fighting puppymills for over 30
> years, and fighting the animal rights organizations nearly as
> long...certainly as long as they've been around. If puppymills had been
> driven out of existence 30, even 20, years ago, the animal rights groups
> would be ignoring the rest of us...because they wouldn't know about us!
> As it is, every dog fancier in the country is in danger of having to
> find another way to occupy his or her time...because the ARistas are not
> letting up...they want all breeding to cease. People like Andrew Hunte
> don't want the puppymills out of business...no matter what words he and
> his ilk put to paper, the mills supply him with his product...puppies.
> Don't like that? Think about it...would you sell him your next litter
> or two? Why not? Do you care enough about your puppies that you want
> to raise them and find homes for them on your own? If not, then give
> the man a call...he'll take them off your hands, give them a cursory vet
> exam, load them into a beautiful, sterile truck, with air conditioning,
> and ship them god knows where to sit in a crate in a pet shop until they
> are all sold. Any that don't get sold will be taken care of
> somehow....and the ones that do get sold may very well be the same ones
> Dawn is posting about 12 or 18 months from now. Do you doubt that?
> Why? This is how the man makes his money...buying puppies and litters
> and shipping them around for resale. Nobody knows where the unsold
> puppies go...we know that some go on to be pets. Some don't. In any
> case, Hunte provides fodder for the ARistas to continue to complain
> about; in fact, he makes their case!
>
> The AKC embraced Hunte because he represented money. The infamous
> Petland contract (which AKC backed away from, thanks to the hue and cry
> from its constituents) was supposed to make more money for the AKC...it
> had nothing to do with dogs. It was all about money. There's no other
> reason for Mr. Menaker, Carmen, or any other person in the AKC to be so
> welcoming to Hunte. There's no reason for anyone seriously involved in
> purebred dogs to be happy with Hunte. THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is
> why he has no place in this club, or any other dog club. He can stand
> around and tell us how long he's been involved in dogs, but he is not a
> dog fancier...he's in the dog business. In business the way Kathaleen
> sells Inflight, or Mary sells Naked Care and other items of interest to
> dog fanciers--not in the way they breed, care for, and exhibit their
> dogs. Neither of them is in Hunte's brand of dog business--where dogs
> are there only to make money.
>
> Hunte is not a dog fancier, no matter how many dogs he manages
> to show and finish, or have shown and get finished. He's in business.
> His business should be offensive to anyone in dogs, and is, to most.
>
> So - if the Board is supposed to listen to the membership (and
> someone said they aren't), or if the vote can be taken again, OR, if the
> membership can overturn the Board's vote, let's do it. Get him out,
> keep him out, and anyone who feels he belongs here is welcome to explain
> why. Many of us have said why not...and we are waiting for someone to
> say why. We don't all operate in fear...this is not Rwanda, or Uganda,
> or Nazi Germany..this is the USA. Hunte has a right to apply for
> membership, and we have a right to say No, Thank You, we don't want
> you. Let's say it.
>
> Let us get on with our peers, fighting the ARistas (who also don't
> want Hunte...for the same reasons...his business of keeping puppymills
> and pet shops going). We can't do it with him as a member...people are
> laughing in our faces. Let us go on with our breeding, showing,
> judging, teasing, fighting, making up, loving our dogs and bragging
> about them, enjoying our friendships (and even our enemies)...but we
> don't need Andrew Hunte to do any of those things...in fact, having him
> as a member is already interfering with all these things. If we need a
> petition to call for another vote, get one going. Maybe the membership
> should just stand up and say "We're not going to take it anymore...do
> as we say. No Hunte!" Whatever it takes...let's get it done!
> Peggy
>
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