In a message dated 7/11/2005 7:57:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: hmmmm I have never considered 99.8 to be significant at all, usually they go in the very low 99's or 98's to further complicate matters LOL...oh and I too think my bitches are driven crazy with me poking them with the thermometer every few hrs, I keep a log and do it 4-5 x a day at the same (or approximate) time each day, and it hasn't failed me yet. You will usually see a very set pattern, but I have noticed the bitch has to be quiet for a time prior to taking the temp or it will be artificially elevated and you could feasibly miss the drop. I guess it depends on where it "starts". I usually use one of those digital thermometers with the "cover",and I've noticed (when I've REALLY annoyed my girls and took their temp a second time with a normal thermometer) that there is always about a 1 degree difference in the two temps. I thought that there was about a two degree difference from her starting temp, maybe I misread that. I do consider two degrees to be significant enough to take notice. And also, as you said, it's important to know what her "normal" temp is, which is why I will often take their temps for a few days two weeks before the due date, to get a "norm" to compare to. Also, as you said, it's important to try to take the temps at the same times each day in order to compare them, and I keep a chart also. These poor dogs, the THINGS they put up with from us! Lynn Lynn Brown - Ebonystar Schipperkes/Angelsgate Rescue http://www.angelsgaterescue.com/ & http://www.schipperkerescue.com/ Post Office Box 92283 - Long Beach, CA 90809 (562) 428-9832 ...special dogs for special people since 1972 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================