A little while ago we were talking about the difficulty in finding majors. People in other breeds laugh at me when I say we used to have 2 or 3 dogs entered and it wouldn't even be a point...so I did some research about how many dogs it took for majors back in my part of the country in the 60s. It seemed it was almost as hard to find majors then as now, and looking at the numbers, I'm so surprised...my memory tells me that the point schedule was higher than this. Still, this comes straight out of the catalog for Trenton KC on May 9, 1965, for Division 1, so it's true. (of course the scale was about to change, since it changes on May 15 every year...but this is what it was. At the end of this, I'll print the Scale of Points thats in effect now: I can't remember what states were included in Division 1 back then, but they included most of New England and NY, NJ at least. Today, Division 1 is only Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire, and New York. New Jersey is now in Division 2 with Pennsylvania and Delaware......and the breakdown there is 2-2, 10-9, 17-15, 21-21, and 27-32. In Virginia (Division 3) it is even lower--14 on either side is a 3 point major. Still, we have a problem finding majors in the East. You people who live where there is a lot of competition or where the point scale is higher still may think it's hard to find majors, but look at how low our scale is, and think that many clubs in this part of the country can't even get majors at specialties. Where are all the dogs? Peggy In New Jersey in 1965: 1 Point: 5 dogs, 5 bitches; 2 Points: 12 dogs, 13 bitches; 3 points: 27 dogs, 30 bitches; 4 points: 48 dogs, 45 bitches; 5 points: 67 dogs, 67 bitches. and now: 1 point: 3 dogs, 3 bitches 2 points: 8 dogs, 10 bitches 3 points: 14 dogs, 18 bitches, 4 points: 18 dogs, 22 bitches, 5 points: 28 dogs, 28 bitches. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================