Yes, I think I would need some kind of verification of the story.... it is a second hand report....and doesn't make a lot of sense. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly Snider" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ropajagsd@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:54:14 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: some judges!!!! I truly think the story is somehow been given wrong. Once the ribbon is given, the points accompany. if there was no competition and no crossover, then there would not have been a point IF he was the only dog there. Perhaps the person misunderstood. If I were the breeder or owner, I would contact CKC and give them the judges name and show and query this explanation. If WD was given and there was a point, the judge cannot deny that. Also a judge can ask the age of the dog... Molly Trillia GSD's Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, life member CKC bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx ---- Original Message ---- From: Pauline Moon <ropajagsd@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Sep 30, 2014 5:15 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] some judges!!!! Are the CKC rules that different from AKC rules? Why would a judge award WD and then withhold the point? If there was an issue why not withhold both the ribbon and the point? Also, how would the judge know how old a dog was? It is not in the judges book? I do not understand, please explain...Molly???......... Pauline Moon Ropaja German Shepherds Msg: #8 in digest Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 18:14:32 -0400 Subject: some judges!!!! From: Linda Terry <jolisgsd@xxxxxxxxx> A friend of mine told me this morning that her boy (from my breeding) went WD in Canada a couple of weeks ago at a small all-breed show. She and her husband were so excited because it would be the last point needed for his Canadian championship. 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