Here, here Carolyn, well said!! -----Original Message----- From: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:45 PM To: showgsd-l digest users Subject: showgsd-l Digest V5 #1339 DO NOT RETURN THE ENTIRE DIGEST. HIGHLIGHT WHAT YOU WISH TO REPLY TO BEFORE HITTING REPLY ------------------------------------ showgsd-l Digest Wed, 03 Aug 2011 Volume: 05 Issue: 1339 In This Issue: #1: From: Linda H. <stjamesgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: In answer #2: From: ALL4MORIAH@xxxxxxx Subject: National Agility #3: From: Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: In answer #4: From: FBoese@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: showgsd-l Digest V5 #1336 #5: From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: White GSD...?? #6: From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: White GSD...?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest From: Linda H. <stjamesgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: In answer Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:08:49 -0400 When I started reading this, I said to myself that I remember having one whose head smelled like maple syrup and then I read the whole post! So don't feel like the Lone Ranger! Linda Hendrix > From: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: In answer > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:42:23 -0400 > > Evan writes: "Yes, we have 'Scented afghans" They are almost gone for some reason, It is an odor around the top of the head or around the ears..." > > Our 4 GSD's all live in the house, so we keep them pretty clean. They have no "doggie" odor. The only thing I use on them is a brush or rake. > > Anyhow, their heads all smell different. One smells like popcorn. One smells like maple syrup. One smells like a pine forest. (We don't have any pines near us.) The last dog's head has a nice clean scent that is hard to describe. Perhaps I can't recognize the scent because this dog is from Germany??? <G> > > Most of you will probably think I'm nuts, but have you smelled your dogs' heads lately? If so, what do they smell like? > > > > Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member > Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds > Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ELG440@xxxxxxx> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <Jacqueline@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:12 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] In answer > > > I had asked about the scented noses of an Afghan. I relayed a story of a > friend of mine who showed me one of her breeding over 30 years ago that > had a flower like smell to the head. I got laughed at by some on the List. > It was because we do tend to lose traits as they are bred out of the breed. > But, then these traits come back later, (such as the white shepherd) > > This is the most interesting response I got from an Afghan breeder. > > > > Yes, we have 'Scented afghans" They are almost gone for some reason, It > is an odor around the tthe top of the head or aroudn the ears... they are > referred to as scented.. often it is described as Jasmine some call it > sandalwood.....it has nothign to do with the noses...I have had some.. one thing > I do fin that still lingers in the breed is the lovely smell some of them > have...afghans rarely smell doggie.. but many of mine still linger in my > mind by their particular smell... > a peculiar breed to say the least... with the weird temperament and > personalities, and the strange coat pattern... all of which is being bred right > out them faster than we can hope to preserve it... but taht is why I do > what I do with my lines.. it is a program of preservation... > > > Nothing is more interesting than life and learning new things. > > Evan Ginsburg > Asgard German Shepherds > http://www.asgardgsd.com/ > Where Type Movement and Temperament come together > ===========================================================================> POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > =========================================================================== ------------------------------ Msg: #2 in digest From: ALL4MORIAH@xxxxxxx Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: National Agility ____________________________________ AGILITY NOVICE A (Reg. Standard) 1st Debrut's / Lori and Paul 2nd Connie and Kevin White ( GSD ONLY) 3rd GSDC of Oregon 4th GSDC of Oregon NOVICE B (Reg. Standard) 1st Karen McKee-Bendtsen 2nd Sue and Sam Sacco in memory of Beauty 3rd GSDC of Oregon 4th GSDC of Oregon OPEN (Reg. Standard) 1st Karen McKee-Bendtsen 2nd GSD Training Club of Chicago 3rd GSDC of Oregon 4th GSDC of Oregon EXCELLENT A (Reg. Standard ) 1st Joan Bennett 2nd P.A.M., Can.OTCH, CT,NANDO von Sontausen VCD4,UDX2,MXJ,NF,OMI,GO,VER,PT,CGC 3rd Peter and Donna Murray 4th GSD Training Club of Chicago EXCELLENT B (Reg. Standard) 1st Cel Hope/ Celhaus German Shepherds 2nd Jennifer Ann Kavanaugh 3rd Peter and Donna Murray 4th Connie and Kevin White (GSD ONLY) PREFERRED STANDARD NOVICE 1st Jeanne Suitich 2nd Pamela Padgett 3rd Adrian and Rita Ledda 4th OPEN 1st Nancy Malone in memory of MACH3,Lavasky vom Malone Jerome MX,MXJ,OF,SS,SWET,OJP,OAP 2nd Peter and Donna Murry 3rd Kristin Siarkowicz and "Abel" 4th Kristin Siarkowicz and "Abel" EXCELLENT A 1st Yong Mi Neal 2nd 3rd 4th EXCELLENT B 1st Yong Mi Neal 2nd 3rd 4th JUMPERS AND WEAVES Konstance McCaffree PhD Adrian and Rita Ledda Mary Jane Kelley in memory of OTCH,OV,Zetta She's So Bad UDX,12, AX,AXJ HIGH COMBINED Tampa Bay German Shepherd Dog Club Inc. HIGH IN TRIAL Terry Cochran /Fairway Shepherd's HIGH SCORING CHAMPION of RECORD Friends of Jane. in Memory of Jane Jeter HIGH SCORING RESCUE Dr Carmelo L. Battaglia ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest From: Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: In answer Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:24:20 -0700 Cat: Cinnamon, Dog: Cat's rear end Stormy On Aug 3, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Linda H. wrote: When I started reading this, I said to myself that I remember having one whose head smelled like maple syrup and then I read the whole post! So don't feel like the Lone Ranger! Linda Hendrix From: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: In answer Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:42:23 -0400 Evan writes: "Yes, we have 'Scented afghans" They are almost gone for some reason, It is an odor around the top of the head or around the ears..." Our 4 GSD's all live in the house, so we keep them pretty clean. They have no "doggie" odor. The only thing I use on them is a brush or rake. Anyhow, their heads all smell different. One smells like popcorn. One smells like maple syrup. One smells like a pine forest. (We don't have any pines near us.) The last dog's head has a nice clean scent that is hard to describe. Perhaps I can't recognize the scent because this dog is from Germany??? <G> Most of you will probably think I'm nuts, but have you smelled your dogs' heads lately? If so, what do they smell like? Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ------------------------------ Msg: #4 in digest From: FBoese@xxxxxxx Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: showgsd-l Digest V5 #1336 If "Taxi" is the product you are thinking of I believe I got mine from Omaha or Valley Vet.. Flo Boese Bo-Hem Shepherds In a message dated 8/3/2011 5:14:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Msg: #6 in digest Subject: Tartar removal From: Sally Hayden <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:54:30 -0500 What is the name of the product that so many use to help remove tartar? Haven' t had a need before so did not keepmit in my files Sally ------------------------------ Msg: #5 in digest From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: White GSD...?? Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:07:39 -0700 Why would we want this Breed to be split into color or coat Class Divisions??? This is a working Breed and our Standard is built around that cause......not colors and coat textures for appearances sake in the show ring. HOW will "Class divisions" improve the German Shepherd Dog and what it is bred to be?? When the GSD cease to become the strong versitile working Breed....and is featured & judged by a color / coat division we will have lost this Breed. The people involved in the white GSD have three 'factions' that do not agree on what should be done with their white GSD. How do you expect our Parent Club and AKC and even our own membership that does not agree on this .....to solve their problem? IF we lose members over this......then it would be because those that would be members for the sole purpose of whatever their agenda is .......of the three factions with the whites. IF we love this Breed ......WE should ALL be concerned about the membership in this Parent Club and quit being so willing to attack our own!!! Particularly over coat and color!! The problems with this Breed is not in whether a white can be SHOWN. This is a GREAT BREED with the Standard as it is......lets put forth this effort for the truly serious problems.like puppy mills, bad dog laws and some health issues..... and stay true to the Standard we have. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jessica MacMillan To: barbara17236@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:17 AMSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White GSD Lots would depend on the AKC and I am not sure what the current status is for allowing "classes divisions" in breeds that don't typically have them, but I think it is well worth the investigation. I do want to say that I am appalled, both by the board members that left early and by the fact that something that will effect the breed so much was held until the end. The GSDCA is going to lose members over this and for a parent club who is so worried about their membership decreasing, this should be a real concern. JMHO. Jessica MacMillan No Frills Dog Bathing Service & Design Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC) Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC Blog: http://mylittleblogspot.myblogsite.com/ Manager of: The Dalmatian Stud Dog List on Facebook The German Shepherd Stud Dog List on Facebook ------------------------------ Msg: #6 in digest Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 02:39:05 +0000 (UTC) From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: White GSD...?? Once again...I have not heard anyone tell me what the harm would be to the breed to allow white dogs to go up against the standard....and please don't say because the standard disqualifies them.....true as that statement is, it does NOT answer my question!..Ed Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx, barbara17236@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 7:07:39 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White GSD...?? Why would we want this Breed to be split into color or coat Class Divisions???   This is a working Breed and our Standard is built around that cause......not colors and coat textures for appearances sake in the show ring.   HOW will "Class divisions"  improve the German Shepherd Dog and what it is bred to be?? When the GSD cease to become the strong versitile working Breed....and is featured & judged by a color / coat division we will have lost this Breed. The people involved in the white GSD have three 'factions' that do not agree on what should be done with their white GSD.   How do you expect our Parent Club and AKC and even our own membership that does not agree on this .....to solve their problem? IF we lose members over this......then it would be because those that would be members for the sole purpose of whatever their agenda is .......of the three factions with the whites. IF we love this Breed ......WE should ALL be concerned about the membership in this Parent Club and quit being so willing to attack our own!!!    Particularly over coat and color!! The problems with this Breed is not in whether a white can be SHOWN.   This is a GREAT BREED  with the Standard as it is......lets put forth this effort for the truly serious problems.like puppy mills, bad dog laws and some health issues..... and stay true to the Standard we have. Carolyn   marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com   ----- Original Message -----   From: Jessica MacMillan To: barbara17236@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx   Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:17 AMSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White GSD   Lots would depend on the AKC and I am not sure what the current status is for allowing "classes divisions" in   breeds that don't typically have them, but I think it is well worth the investigation.   I do want to say that I am appalled, both by the board members that left early and by the fact that something that   will effect the breed so much was held until the end.   The GSDCA is going to lose members over this and for a parent club who is so worried about their membership decreasing, this should be a real concern.   JMHO.   Jessica MacMillan   No Frills Dog Bathing Service & Design   Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)   & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)   Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC   Blog: http://mylittleblogspot.myblogsite.com/   Manager of: The Dalmatian Stud Dog List on Facebook   The German Shepherd Stud Dog List on Facebook      ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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