In a message dated 2/6/2007 7:40:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- Msg: #7 in digest From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:33:56 EST Subject: Re: the Hunte membership In a message dated 2/5/2007 10:58:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: And, for the last time...he had no grounds no matter what...and if he'd sued all of us, the court would have seen it as a bunch of "slap suits" and tossed it out...and he'd have had to pay costs............ Maybe. You have an awful lot more faith in our court system then I do. I've seen some pretty stupid decisions lately:( As far as no grounds/damages...I keep reading that people think the credibility gained by being a member of a large national breed club will be a bonanza for Hunte's business. (I'm not sure I agree, but lets for a minute assume they are correct.) If they want to make the argument that membership EQUALS bonanza, then how can the very same people make the argument that denying membership doesn't EQUAL damages? I'm on my second cup of coffee and I can't make that work. IF membership is GOOD for business, then being denied membership MUST BE bad for business. And therefore the organization that denied membership, hurt the business. How to prove it? Oh, I don't know, go out and get a few contacts for show puppies bred by GSDCA members, Futurity nominated in the range of $3,500-$5,000 and contrast that with what a Hunte puppy sells for without the same bona fides...multiply that by the number of puppies Hunte sells, damn, that's a lot of damages! Same quality? Hardly. I can hear it now, "but your Honor, look...no front, no rear, it doesn't even come close to the standard..." Yeah, right. Would it work? Who knows? Silly? Absolutely, yes, but I've seen worse fly. Besides, you're forgetting that we'd still have to defend, and even if we prevail, it's still a suit on our record. Did you miss the part that we tried to increase our insurance last year and were denied? Do you understand these types of policies aren't guaranteed renewable? Do you understand the consequences if the policy we have now isn't renewed? I want him out. I want him out without putting the club or the BOD in what potentially could be a very bad spot. Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! KATHY AND ALL; IF WE HAVEN'T ANY RECOURSE OR SAFETY NET, REGARDING BEING PROTECTED BY INSURANCE,( THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IN THE NEAR FUTURE.).. FROM MAKING DECISIONS AFFECTING OUR GSDCA CLUBS AND MEMBERS. .IS OUR ONLY RECOURSE TO DISBAND??? I AM REALLY SERIOUS..BECAUSE I DO NOT SEE ANY ANSWER ACCORDING TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF INSURANCE, LAWS, ETC..WHICH I CERTAINLY RESPECT AS FAR SUPERIOR TO MINE... THAT WOULD PROTECT US FROM SUCH LAWSUITS.. SOME CLEVER LAWYER CAN ALWAYS FIND A LOOPHOLE.. WE ALL KNOW THAT AND WE ALL KNOW MANY JUDGES BELONG IN THE FUNNY FARM....BASED ON SOME OF THEIR 'FAR-OUT' DECISIONS... SO WHERE, EXACTLY DOES THAT LEAVE US??? UNABLE TO FUNCTION?? IF WE CANNOT GUARD AND DEFEND AND PROTECT OUR BELOVED GERMAN SHEPHERD BREED, WITHOUT BEING SUED TO DEATH, WHAT OPTIONS ARE LEFT TO US??? RESPECTFULLY, BARB WILLIAMS ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================