We, too, have bears here in Florida...black bears, so behavior may be different, I don't know. Here, the black bears will come out each day at sundown and make their way through the forest toward the lake. They go into each backyard where they know there is a trash can or dog food outside and will do their best to scavenge, moving on to the next and so forth. They normally will pass through yards where barking dogs are but won't aggresively pursue those dogs unless the dogs move toward them. HOWEVER....with younger cubs (cubs will be with their moms until the age of two) they tend to wander ahead/away from their mom's immediate vacinity but she is close by. She CAN and does get aggressive if she feels her cubs may be in jeopardy. Recently a junior about 1 and a half years of age came out and was standing beside my shed on the other side of a bush so I didn't realize he was there. I was headed for my truck and heard the branches break under his feet and turned to see he was six feet from me and between me and the house where I had my keys (I was getting something out of the truck for the office). I froze. He froze. We stared at one another for a couple minutes (all the while my mind was burning rubber...I know because I smelled the burn...LOL) while I was picturing the mother coming out at me to defend her youngster and then (I'm sure I don't know where it actually came from because thinking back...I don't remember my being that brave....or stupid) I yelled out in a deep, gruff voice, "Geeettttt Ouuuttttt offff Heeerrrreeee!!!" The youngster stared at this crazy person for a second, looked over his shoulder (while I thought...Uh oh...kinda more like the Scooby Doo...Errrr Ohhhh), looked back at me and slowly turned away and ambled back into the cover of the woods. He kept stopping every few steps and looking back over his shoulder to see if I was still standing there (like my feet were actually gonna move....heck, I think they were frozen in time) and finally, the neighbor stuck her head out to shout at her dogs for barking so much and I yelled at her to take the dogs inside (they were chihuahuas) because the Bear was out in her back yard now. Long story short....that experience was only one of the many more I've had that have taken my breath away as I watch them file, one by one, out of cover at the creek, babies first and then of course, mom, and run across the street in front of traffic and even the time a big male bear with a large scratch across his whole side ambled slowly across in front of me...he was as big as my car...and then stopped to sit and look at me. We stared at one another. Then he lay down on the side of the road and continued to stare. Finally I broke the suspense and began to move slowly forward in my car and he sat up, stood up and meandered on into the woods. Do they go around barking dogs? Yes, Do they bother the horses? Yes. The horses smell them a good distance away and if you are lucky enough to be on your own two feet...you are ahead of the game. Otherwise, once the scent drifts and alights upon the nostrils of your horse as you are riding, the horse rears, squeals and politely dumps you, his passenger with a much less tuned sense of smell and wisdom to know better the warning signs before the front hooves leave the ground in the first place, become airborne and once the dust settles, you stare at your horse which has become a blur in the distance and wonder how and in what direction you will be heading back to the house ! I've even ridden up to a pine tree, down wind of course or I wouldn't be here to type this, and seeing the trees moving, I stopped and realized the red brown leaves in front of me were quickly beginning to appear to resemble a bear, its hide now reddened by the sunburn of the summer sun, blending into the environment and rubbing its shedding fur off on the tree bark. And yes, just in case you may be wondering, I turned my horse and headed on home....at as fast a pace as I could safely manage. They are beautiful and it is a shame our civilized world is quickly pushing them back to evolve our concrete existence. But the bears are managing to move back as well and then to venture out on their own to explore the new surroundings and each of them makes their own headway...some trepidatiously...some aggressively...some just plain taking it in their stride. Unfortunately, they learn quickly to associate the smells of the human, the dogs and the sights as a signal to locate food and their fear of humans/dogs disappears. Debbie "The pain in our lives is no more than a crack in the shell trying to get through to our understanding." -----Original Message----- From: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: showgsd-l digest users <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Sep 24, 2010 11:14 pm Subject: showgsd-l Digest V4 #1885 showgsd-l Digest Fri, 24 Sep 2010 Volume: 04 Issue: 1885 In This Issue: #1: From: Jessica Keene <jkeene2005@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: new updated website #2: From: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Vets in Virginnie #3: From: "Lisa Carroll" <tacoragsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: escape artist HELP #4: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: escape artist HELP #5: From: Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: escape artist HELP #6: From: "glenwood" <glenwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: movie of puppies #7: From: Werner Sommers <wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: escape artist HELP #8: From: Iza Kabuska-Ackerman <izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: a little off-topic, but very exciting ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest rom: Jessica Keene <jkeene2005@xxxxxxxxxxx> ubject: Re: new updated website ate: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:22:01 -0500 Take this to PRIVATE please. NOBODY wants to listen to this argument. Thank you. Jessica Keene ttp://www.gsdjunior.webs.com ttp://www.jkphotographyandads.webs.com From: pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: lockefam1@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new updated website Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:51:15 -0400 First of all Katie your info is VERY wrong. I have NEVER said anything about ou and fred so YOU may want to get your facts straight! So if anyone is looking ike a BIGGER ass its YOU! So if YOU would like to continue on then so be it YOU re the one who is contacting ME and harassing ME so bring it on! And as for how any litters I have had it is NONE of YOUR business. You have felt the need to arass me to no end because I have had a back to back litter. Is it aginst the aw to have a back to back? I am pretty sure YOU have had one! I removed you rom my facebook because I thought you were a RUDE person so now do not contact e here either!! Rebecca Little Peakes Brook German Shepherds http://www.peakesbrookshepherds.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: lockefam1@xxxxxxxxxxx To: pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] new updated website Rebecca Might want to fix the part where it says we have 1-2 litters per year. Also t has come to my attention that you are spreading rumors/slander about Me , red and our dogs and you might want to think twice about it before you continue nd my attorney has to become involved. Might want to also get your facts traight before you spread shit about anyone so you don't look like a bigger ss... the dog that Cathy got from me is NOT the one she has with EPI that one ent back to its breeder.Maybe you should concentrate on ALL of the puppies you rought into this world this year alone rather than sit around slandering thers. Katie On Sep 23, 2010, Rebecca Little <pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Take a peek and tell me what you think http://www.peakesbrookshepherds.net/ Rebecca Little Peakes Brook German Shepherds http://www.peakesbrookshepherds.net/ =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and ts administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in ny post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY ANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION F ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND S A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY ANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION F ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND S A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ----------------------------- Msg: #2 in digest ate: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:56:41 -0700 ubject: Vets in Virginnie rom: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> I need to find a good Veterinarian in the Chesapeak, VA area for a friend ho wants to x-ray his GSD. Does anyone know of a good one? mail me privately please. Thank you, en ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest rom: "Lisa Carroll" <tacoragsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> ubject: escape artist HELP ate: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:16:21 -0400 I am looking into buying one of the AKC pro breeder kennels for my escape rtist GSD. can any one tell me if they will work for the GSD or how can you top them from going through chain link fence. I am at my witt's end. Some ne tell me of a product that will work 10 by 10 by 6ft chain link is like alking through a screen door. and He has destroyed several wire crates, and ari kennels new and the better old kind. HELP! isa C Walker / Tacora shepherds or BEARS! ----------------------------- Msg: #4 in digest rom: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx ate: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:34:48 EDT ubject: Re: escape artist HELP Sorry to joke, but sounds like a candidate for concrete!!!!!!!!!!! (or raining) olly n a message dated 9/24/2010 9:17:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, acoragsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: m looking into buying one of the AKC pro breeder kennels for my escape rtist GSD. can any one tell me if they will work for the GSD or how can ou top them from going through chain link fence. I am at my witt's end. Some ne tell me of a product that will work 10 by 10 by 6ft chain link is like alking through a screen door. and He has destroyed several wire crates, nd ari kennels new and the better old kind. HELP! ----------------------------- Msg: #5 in digest rom: Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> ubject: Re: escape artist HELP ate: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:39:20 -0700 24 hour watch with a remote e-collar? I have one for sale:-) I'm sorry,that has to be totally frustrating. That's one of the easons people tether though... for escape artists. NOT close to here the dog can climb any fence!! Storm n Sep 24, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx wrote: > Sorry to joke, but sounds like a candidate for concrete!!!!!!!!!!! (or training) Molly In a message dated 9/24/2010 9:17:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tacoragsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: am looking into buying one of the AKC pro breeder kennels for my escape artist GSD. can any one tell me if they will work for the GSD or how can you stop them from going through chain link fence. I am at my witt's end. Some one tell me of a product that will work 10 by 10 by 6ft chain link is like walking through a screen door. and He has destroyed several wire crates, and vari kennels new and the better old kind. HELP! = = = = = = ===================================================================== POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ = = = = = = ===================================================================== ----------------------------- Msg: #6 in digest rom: "glenwood" <glenwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ubject: movie of puppies ate: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:10:24 -0400 Would appreciate any help. We are looking for a camera like a flip camera or an nexpensive movie version camcorder. flip ones are about150 while the JVC about 90. All we would do with it is shoot video of youngsters. rivate response please. sue rom the sunny Nature Coast of Florida ue and Glenn Sherwood ee us on the web at http://www.germanshepherdsrus.com mail glenwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Msg: #7 in digest ate: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) rom: Werner Sommers <wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx> ubject: Re: escape artist HELP The kennel your dog will never go through.. You can get it at TSC well made very heavy about $500.00 for 10 by 10. Grey n olour. The AKC pro may work. I have some of each. Werner ttp://imagegermanshepherds.com/ BISS Am/Can CH. Scher-Lo's Mr Karizma HIC.OFA h&e m.CH. Hadori's Samantha OFA h&e .O.F CH. Pointed, Lorien's Play By Play OFA h&e -- On Fri, 9/24/10, Lisa Carroll <tacoragsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: rom: Lisa Carroll <tacoragsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] escape artist HELP o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ate: Friday, September 24, 2010, 9:16 PM am looking into buying one of the AKC pro breeder kennels for my escape rtist GSD. can any one tell me if they will work for the GSD or how can you top them from going through chain link fence. I am at my witt's end. Some ne tell me of a product that will work 10 by 10 by 6ft chain link is like alking through a screen door. and He has destroyed several wire crates, and ari kennels new and the better old kind. HELP! isa C Walker / Tacora shepherds or BEARS! ===========================================================================POST s Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author nd of GSD Communication, Inc. 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I say they were young, cuz they were probably about the ize of my old house dog - "Cha-Cha", except they looked "heaftier" What a ight ! I was very happy to be in my car. ow - I have been told they are more frightened of us than we are of them, AND, hey stay away from dogs barking. Does anyone know if this is true ? There ere bears in New Jersey when I lived there, but I never saw any. Regardless, it was a thrill to see them !!! Yea ! - Wild and Wonderful West Virginia !!!!! Iza Kabuska ttp://www.Karizmashepherds.com ------------------------------ End of showgsd-l Digest V4 #1885 ******************************* ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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