your post is a breath of fresh air......it is not only about recognizing the problems, but maybe even more members will be more involved.......and more aware at voting time. great post * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : Sel AM CH & CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest aka DEXTER AM CH Kaleef's Allyson V Kenlyn aka ALLYSON Kaleef's Expensive Date (major pointed) aka JACKIE Inquest Huckleberry Fun - That Hot Black Dog aka HUCKS and Bunny, aka Her Majesty, aka THE BOSS In a message dated 7/21/2010 10:53:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, culzeans1@xxxxxxx writes: ok I read the lawsuit, it was very long and not being a lawyer I hope I got the gist of it. I don't know any of the mentioned parties except for a phone conversation with Bill Phieffer 7-8 yrs ago regarding my membership, he was extremely helpful and informative to a very new comer, he spent an hour of his time giving me a wonderful history lesson of the GSD. And Nancy Harper who has my most favorite dog Danny, she has been nothing but helpful, kind,generous and informative as well. To me I am astounded that adults are seemingly acting this way. If all that she says is true, I am not sure I want to be a member of such a club. But when I read what Dave and Evan and a few others write and I think maybe I am part of the problem because I did not or have not invested myself in this club other than to pay my dues. I never even took the time to know that the GSDCA and WDA did not get along or that there was tension. I want this club to not just maintain but to flourish and thrive . When election time comes around, I believe I will take the voting much more seriously and ask a whole lot of questions about people who are asking me for a vote. I have always just voted for familiar names. Now I don't want to be part of the problem I want to be part of the solution. Pam From: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:26:29 AM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Listen to learn In a message dated 7/19/10 11:44:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, okenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx writes: When I speak of how it is being handled, I am putting it to the board gain as something they must remind themselves of their fiduciary esponsibility. When you read the complaint, you can see the problems caused by the closed essions. I do admit, they are less all the time now, and when Ken owning was president, I don't think he had any. If he did they were few. Open and frank discussions allows the members to be involved. Unless one as no respect for the members, all board members should welcome imput from he membership. Had that happened in the past, I doubt these problems would xist today. Always trust the membership. The combined intelligence of this club is stounding. Not that there would be anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg sgard German Shepherds ttp://www.asgardgsd.com/ here Type Movement and Temperament come together From: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:26:29 AM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Listen to learn In a message dated 7/19/10 11:44:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, okenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx writes: When I speak of how it is being handled, I am putting it to the board gain as something they must remind themselves of their fiduciary esponsibility. When you read the complaint, you can see the problems caused by the closed essions. I do admit, they are less all the time now, and when Ken owning was president, I don't think he had any. If he did they were few. Open and frank discussions allows the members to be involved. Unless one as no respect for the members, all board members should welcome imput from he membership. Had that happened in the past, I doubt these problems would xist today. Always trust the membership. The combined intelligence of this club is stounding. Not that there would be anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg sgard German Shepherds ttp://www.asgardgsd.com/ here Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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