In a message dated 3/6/2007 3:47:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, I respectfully disagree. It is not judging by a personal standard...it is judging by the Standard. Like all standards, there is a certain amount of leeway allowed the judge...if two things are serious faults, it is up to the judge which one he or she cares to penalize more heavily. If everyone judged exactly the same, every dog on earth would only have to go to one show, and there would be no need for competition...the only judge to ever judge that dog would have rendered a decision and that would be it. Unless, of course, there is more than one perfect dog in the ring...and then what would you do? You'd go with your personal preference, or you'd be there all day, well into the night. So long as a judge adheres to the Standard, there is still room for personal preference....there has to be. Otherwise, as I said already, we would all know who the best dog is...without argument. As it is, there is a need for dog shows where the dogs compete for someone's opinion...and that someone's interpretation of the written standard. :-) Peggy Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx wrote: > > >> >> > PEGGY; I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT THAT KIND OF 'FORGIVING' IS > WHAT I CALL 'PERSONAL STANDARD JUDGING.'.. AT THE EXCLUSION OF THE > DICTATES OF > THE BREED STANDARD.. > > I BELIEVE, THAT IS WHAT HAS GOTTEN OUR BREED IN TROUBLE, WITH SOME OF > THE PROBLEMS OF TODAY. > > .I RECALL AN ASSIGNMENT I ONCE JUDGED WHERE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME THING > HAPPENED... I HAD A BEAUTIFUL, STRONG MALE WITH SOUND OVER-ALL STRUCTURE > AND > EXCELLENT TYPE..HE MOVED WELL AND VERY CLEAN COMING AND GOING AND EXHIBITED > A GOOD > SIDE-GAIT., IN THE FRONT... . THEN, HERE COMES, INTO THE RING , A > HANDSOME, BEAUTIFUL MALE, JUST EXACTLY 'MY KIND OF BOY'.... I LOVED > HIM!!!!!!! > ALMOST EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM WAS PERSONALLY, EXACTLY WHAT I MOST ADMIRE... > BUT WHEN HE WENT AWAY FROM ME, HE WAS WEAK ON THE RIGHT REAR LEG AND THE > HOCK > GAVE A BIT IN MOTION... FROM THE SIDE. WHEN HE STOPPED AND STOOD > FOUR-SQUARE I PUT MY HAND ON HIS PELVIS AND WITH JUST A LITTLE PRESSURE, > FELT HIM GIVE > UNDER MY HAND ON THAT SIDE... THE OTHER MALE , IN THE SAME POSITION STOOD > FIRM AND STRONG UNDER MY HAND... I SENT THEM AROUND AGAIN, AND THOUGH IN MY > HEART > I WANTED TO GIVE THE BIG WIN TO THE ONE I SO PERSONALLY ADMIRED AND > FAVORED, ...I TOLD MYSELF, I AM HERE TO JUDGE THESE DOGS BY THE BREED > STANDARD AND > THAT IS MY JOB. SO I PLACED 'MY BOY' SECOND, ALTHOUGH IT WAS ONE OF THE > HARDEST DECISIONS I'VE EVER FACED.. > > UNTIL THEY CHANGE THE STANDARD FOR THIS BREED AND EXCUSE SUCH A SERIOUS > FAULT, THEN WE DARE NOT PLAY FAST AND LOOSE WITH IT...JMO BARB WILLIAMS > > > ================================================== PEGGY: AS I SAID, I APPRECIATE YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE JUST EXPRESSED MINE.. I GUESS EVERYONE WHO BREEDS AND JUDGES DOGS OF ANY BREED, HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IDEAS...I RESPECT THAT. AND I AM MERELY STATING MY OWN... I HAVE BEEN BLEST AND PRIVILEGED TO HAVE JUDGED SOME MAGNFICENT ONES ... JUDGING GERMAN SHEPHERDS, IS , TO ME, A SACRED RESPONSIBILITY... I WILL ADMIT ALTHOUGH I HAVE JUDGED MANY MATCHES OF OTHER BREEDS AND LOVE THEM ALL, AND ENJOY AND FIND IT 'FUN ' TO JUDGE THEM AND DO MY VERY BEST... THERE SIMPLY ISN'T ANY OTHER BREED THAT GRABS ME BY THE HEART LIKE GERMAN SHEPHERDS...AND MAKES EACH JUDGING DECISION A SOUL-SEARCHING ONE..BECAUSE IT IS SO DAMN IMPORTANT TO THE ENTIRE BREED, THAT EACH JUDGE, DOES IT RIGHT!!!!!!! BARB WILLIAMS ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================