[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #468
- From: ropajagsd@xxxxxxx
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:57:36 -0500
Jamie,
I am sooo sorry to read that Ch Yardley has gone to join so many others across
THE bridge... I do remember him and that he did produce some beautiful
offsprings...Lynda Bragg Workman had a bitch from that time frame _ I don't
remember if it was a littermate or progeny, anyway, she also produced well.
..My Demi (Beau and Joli's dam) just turned 12 last friday; she was born a wild
child and she still continues and I love her dearly...it is ALWAYS so hard to
let go of our beloveth ones...no matter how many times it happens...feel the
love from all of us who have walked in your shoes and will walk in them
again...
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Subject: showgsd-l Digest V3 #468
showgsd-l Digest Thu, 16 Feb 2006 Volume: 03 Issue: 468
In This Issue:
#1: From: "RivendellP" <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Ch Whippet lost at JFK
#2: From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Responses - How do you sell a litter of Puppies?
#3: From: Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx
Subject: Another To The Bridge
#4: From: caggra@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Ch Whippet lost at JFK
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Msg: #1 in digest
From: "RivendellP" <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Ch Whippet lost at JFK
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:39:35 -0800
Okay...Okay...it was Delta. You all can stop emailing me.
That does NOTHING to change my mind about my earlier post.
We don't read these stories every day because they don't happen every day.
They are the "exception" rather than the rule and we need to cultivate the
airlines...not bash them.
It's irresponsible to paint Delta as irresponsible with such a broad brush.
We all have our stories and I could relate a couple that still makes my
blood boil. That said...with all of the times our dogs have been shipped
properly in our 25 + years in dogs...I am satisfied the dogs normally
receive excellent care.
It's comments like these that caused us problems in the 1st place. Do you
remember the Boris Bill Ginger? SB 1112 or something like that. It was
sponsored by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D) NJ. It actually passed and had to
be defeated in committee. It would have resulted in every airplane that
carried animals to be retrofitted at a cost of $50,000.00 per plane. It
would also have brought the Feds right down the throats of the airlines with
extreme regulations shipping dogs, cats, or any other animal.
Guess who was behind Boris? HSUS, PETA, and DDAL. Hmmmm...those groups sound
quite familiar don't they? All 3 groups worked quietly but hand in hand
behind the scenes. They wrote the legislation especially to deal with
shipping baby chickens across the nation but were equally pleased that if
would effectively halt shipping of all dogs, cats, and virtually all other
animals. They were dancing in the streets when Boris passed both the House
and the Senate.
Then the "entire animal family" found out and went to work. I had to buy a
new fax machine because I sent so many my 1st one melted down and Boris was
killed. Yeah you say? No...many airlines realized the possible liability
they could incur if they continued to ship animals. They all didn't just
stop...but they made it way more difficult and EXPENSIVE $$$$ than it had
been. They all doubled their fees and some would only take animals as cargo
at 4 times the price even tho they ride in the exact same place.
Now over the years we continue to lose one after the other and I'll be
honest with you all...they way we treat them I can't say I blame them.
No...I'm not holier than thou and I have screamed at a gate agent because
she didn't jump right up and tell me where my dogs were. I have learned
since then...that the old adage of getting more with honey than vinegar is
true.
You all can continue to bash them if you wish...but it's lose, lose for all
of us if you do. Like I posted...if you take into consideration the number
of animals that are shipped successfully in comparison to the bad stories
the number is huge in favor of the good stories. You never read about it
when everything goes right, do you?
Paul
> http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/am-jfk0215,0,7072069.story
>
> Paul opines...
>
> That's odd...I read the article several times and didn't see Delta's name
> mentioned once...or how or who the dog escaped from.
>
> I surely hope you haven't crossposted this like you did the last one.
>
> In this day and age we need all of the "flying friends" we can get. If you
> take into consideration the number of animals that are shipped on a daily
> basis...the mistakes are tiny in comparison to the number who make it just
> fine.
>
> In the last 5 years we have flown out dogs on Delta, Alaska, American, and
> Frontier with not even the hint of a problem. I always thank the people at
> the check in desk, the person who takes the dog down to baggage, and the
> person who brings the dog to me on arrival.
>
> Continued slamming of airlines on exceptional circumstances will not make
> any points for us who need all the points we can get to keep them flying
> our
> dogs. As I said in my post last week...if there's a problem in shipping
> deal
> with it and move on.
>
> If you have someone walk your dog from time to time and continually kick
> him
> in the shins...pretty soon he will wise up and stop walking the dog.
>
> Paul
>
>
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Msg: #2 in digest
From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:40:25 EST
Subject: Re: Responses - How do you sell a litter of Puppies?
In a message dated 2/16/2006 12:42:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Others (myself included) have clauses in their contract that require their
kennel name is used in the name or all guarantees are void.
Check with your State's Puppy Lemon Law before you put this type of thing in
your contract. It's probably not valid (at best) and at worst could earn
you a fine from your State's Attorney General or whoever in your State decides
such things.
Kathy
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Msg: #3 in digest
From: Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:47:35 EST
Subject: Another To The Bridge
It is with sadness I announce the passing of Ch. Windwalker's Yardley, TC,
ROM, OFA H&E. He died in his sleep last night.
Yardley was my "easy" dog....easy keeper, easy to finish (2 5pt majors)
easy around the house and in the kennel because he was so neat about his
surroundings and himself....always tidy. He achieved the ROM title easily with
only
10 litters. And now he has made it easy for me in his passing by going softly
to sleep.
One of the unsung heroes of the breed....not flashy, not spectacular to
look at, but he was possibly my best mover and producer...I will miss his
constant presence and the kindly look in his eyes. He would have been 12 years
old
this June.
Jamie
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Msg: #4 in digest
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:51:05 -0500
From: caggra@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Ch Whippet lost at JFK
I agree that a large majority of the time the airlines are great with dogs.
There are of course exceptions, as with everything.
We have flown dogs many times and have never had a problem. In fact, one time
when a plane was slightly delayed and we were going to miss a connection
Continental went above and beyond making sure we were on the same plane as our
dog and even bumped us up to 1st class!!
Jeff
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From: RivendellP <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:39:35 -0800
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Ch Whippet lost at JFK
Okay...Okay...it was Delta. You all can stop emailing me.
That does NOTHING to change my mind about my earlier post.
We don't read these stories every day because they don't happen every day.
They are the "exception" rather than the rule and we need to cultivate the
airlines...not bash them.
It's irresponsible to paint Delta as irresponsible with such a broad brush.
We all have our stories and I could relate a couple that still makes my
blood boil. That said...with all of the times our dogs have been shipped
properly in our 25 + years in dogs...I am satisfied the dogs normally
receive excellent care.
It's comments like these that caused us problems in the 1st place. Do you
remember the Boris Bill Ginger? SB 1112 or something like that. It was
sponsored by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D) NJ. It actually passed and had to
be defeated in committee. It would have resulted in every airplane that
carried animals to be retrofitted at a cost of $50,000.00 per plane. It
would also have brought the Feds right down the throats of the airlines with
extreme regulations shipping dogs, cats, or any other animal.
Guess who was behind Boris? HSUS, PETA, and DDAL. Hmmmm...those groups sound
quite familiar don't they? All 3 groups worked quietly but hand in hand
behind the scenes. They wrote the legislation especially to deal with
shipping baby chickens across the nation but were equally pleased that if
would effectively halt shipping of all dogs, cats, and virtually all other
animals. They were dancing in the streets when Boris passed both the House
and the Senate.
Then the "entire animal family" found out and went to work. I had to buy a
new fax machine because I sent so many my 1st one melted down and Boris was
killed. Yeah you say? No...many airlines realized the possible liability
they could incur if they continued to ship animals. They all didn't just
stop...but they made it way more difficult and EXPENSIVE $$$$ than it had
been. They all doubled their fees and some would only take animals as cargo
at 4 times the price even tho they ride in the exact same place.
Now over the years we continue to lose one after the other and I'll be
honest with you all...they way we treat them I can't say I blame them.
No...I'm not holier than thou and I have screamed at a gate agent because
she didn't jump right up and tell me where my dogs were. I have learned
since then...that the old adage of getting more with honey than vinegar is
true.
You all can continue to bash them if you wish...but it's lose, lose for all
of us if you do. Like I posted...if you take into consideration the number
of animals that are shipped successfully in comparison to the bad stories
the number is huge in favor of the good stories. You never read about it
when everything goes right, do you?
Paul
> http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/am-jfk0215,0,7072069.story
>
> Paul opines...
>
> That's odd...I read the article several times and didn't see Delta's name
> mentioned once...or how or who the dog escaped from.
>
> I surely hope you haven't crossposted this like you did the last one.
>
> In this day and age we need all of the "flying friends" we can get. If you
> take into consideration the number of animals that are shipped on a daily
> basis...the mistakes are tiny in comparison to the number who make it just
> fine.
>
> In the last 5 years we have flown out dogs on Delta, Alaska, American, and
> Frontier with not even the hint of a problem. I always thank the people at
> the check in desk, the person who takes the dog down to baggage, and the
> person who brings the dog to me on arrival.
>
> Continued slamming of airlines on exceptional circumstances will not make
> any points for us who need all the points we can get to keep them flying
> our
> dogs. As I said in my post last week...if there's a problem in shipping
> deal
> with it and move on.
>
> If you have someone walk your dog from time to time and continually kick
> him
> in the shins...pretty soon he will wise up and stop walking the dog.
>
> Paul
>
>
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