I agree so how do we get this started? It makes the most sense. PETA doesn't have a separate group for each state, they are all one group who function in each state. We need an national group with local/state outreaches. One group that if you can't find a local group they can help you start one or locate the nearest chapter. There is so much strength and power in numbers, that is why the AR"S are effective. United and fighting, I like that Pam In a message dated 2/20/2009 6:12:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Msg: #1 in digest Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:54:11 -0800 Subject: Re: Board meetings (Long) From: stormy435 <stormy435@xxxxxxx> "Not my fight" "They exempted show animals" "Don't want them to know where I live" Apathy, no organization, comes out when it's about to affect them, and most of all no main organizing body. Or person. Each org. has this ego problem, and actually don't play nice with other organizations. Each lobbyist speaks for their own group and sometimes shoots the other feller in the foot. Look what AKC almost did with AB1634! Or PAWS. TheFarm Bureau just pulled opposition from a bill in a state because they switched focus to dogs and cats. States NEED their own local groups (states federations, etc.). They know their state or their local area and can work best there. Not every problem needs a National intervention. BUT an effective National group can umbrella these groups and guide, support and come to their aid. They can send professional lobbyists if needed, and watchdog and go proactive. As I said, I only know of 3 truly national PET groups. NAIA, ADOA and CFA and then RPOA. I DON"t agree that the small local groups are not needed. But ORGANIZATION, having an strong umbrella group with a warchest that can move fast and effectively. YEP, that's needed. Just suggested that we have a symbol for ALL animal WELFARE groups, from snak e owners to dairy farmers, from cat owners to horse owners, and of course, dog owners. A symbol that means that we are united and fighting, then moving ahead and forward, moving them back into the ditch and we take the high road. Stormy On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:37:02 PM, "Nancy Harper" <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I don't understand why ALL CHARTER BREED CLUBS, Dog food manufacturers, suppliers, distributors, etc don't ALL join forces. There is strength and MONEY in numbers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "stormy435" <stormy435@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Board meetings (Long) -- Stormy Hope carpoc.org GSDCA Member And more clubs **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================