[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #3687
- From: Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:11:20 EST
In a message dated 12/22/2006 6:15:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd-
Ann,
I agree with you that cost should reflect the amount you put in. But what
does not make sense to me is that you said you sold your "pet" pups for
$1750.00, then gave away 2 "show" pups on co ownership. Yes most people
these days are becoming more educated and want well bred dogs/puppies. But
$1750 for a "pet", and "show" pups for nothing (don't know what the contract
states, but still nothing up front from the way you stated it earlier.) I
don't think that's fair either, we want the puppy buyers to be well
educated, but give them prices that for alot of people wanting a family
member is way out their price range. Maybe you sold your pups quickly and
noone hesitated.....that's great for you. But I can't see a pet price being
quite so high.
Don't want to offend just lending my thoughts!
Happy Holidays!
Kris Kudel
Kamelot
Shepherds UPDATED http://mysite.verizon.net/krisbob1/
GSDCA member
JUST A THOUGHT:
I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE SHOULD EVER EXPECT TO MAKE MONEY ON LARGE BREEDS..
IT IS STRICTLY A LABOR OF LOVE AND TO GET SOME TO GO ON WITH FOR YOURSELVES
AND OTHER INTERESTED BREEDERS.. IF I BROKE EVEN, ON ANY LITTER...I THOUGHT I
WAS ROLLING IN CLOVER!!!
SMALL BREEDS ARE WHERE THE MONEY LIES... COSTS LITTLE TO RAISE THEM AND
HOUSE THEM AND THEY ARE DARLING FOR A LOT LONGER THAN A LARGE, INTO EVERYTHING
RAMBUNCTIOUS 50 POUND 3 MONTH OLD PUPPY..WHO IS '.TEARING UP HELL AND
DRINKING JORDAN DRY,' AS MY GRAM USED TO SAY...
IF YOU GET CAUGHT UP IN WHAT YOU CAN MAKE OFF GERMAN SHEPHERDS, OR TRYING
TO 'GET YOUR MONEY BACK', THAT YOU INVESTED IN THEM..., YOU ARE GOING IN THE
WRONG DIRECTION..
YOU NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON GETTING THEM INTO WONDERFUL , FOREVER LOVING
HOMES...FIRST AND LAST AND ALWAYS!! AND...THERE ARE SOME GOOD PEOPLE,
OFFERING
GREAT HOMES, TO WHOM , I WOULD RATHER GIVE A DOG TO THAN SELL FOR A KING'S
RANSOM ;: TO SOMEONE WHO WANTS ONLY A SHOW DOG, AND IF IT DOESN'T MAKE THE
GRADE, OUT IT GOES!!!
TO ME, THIS BUSINESS OF BUYING A 'SHOW DOG' HAS GOTTEN OUT OF HAND... IT'S
LIKE SAYING, I'LL ADOPT THAT CHILD BUT IF HE OR SHE ISN'T AN EINSTEIN, OUT
THEY
GO...
THAT IS WHY I HAVE A COUPLE OF 'OLD' KIDS OUT THERE NOW THAT ARE BOTH
CLOSE TO 9 YEARS OLD..THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE SHOW OR BREEDING GRADE, BUT ARE
STILL
WITH US...AND TWO THAT FULFILLED OUR EXPECTATIONS AND THEN SOME..
LOST 2 OTHERS LAST YEAR DUE TO OLD AGE, 13 AND 1/2 AND 14 AND 1/2 THAT
DIDN'T MAKE THE SHOW OR BREEDING GRADE EITHER..BUT WE LOVED THEM DEARLY FOR
THEMSELVES..
THIS BRINGS ME TO MY LAST POINT..WHEN YOU CHARGE SUCH PRICES AS SOME ARE
DOING., FOR A SHOW OR BREEDING STOCK.....I THINK YOU SHOULD BE PREPARED TO
GIVE
ALL OR SOME OF THE PURCHASE PRICE,BACK IF THE DOG DEVELOPS A SERIOUS HEALTH
ISSUE AND CAN'T BE BRED. OR A REPLACEMENT OF EQUAL VALUE...
PLUS, ONE SHOULD NEVER INSIST THE 'ONE WHO DIDN'T MAKE IT' BE RETURNED TO
THE SELLER, FOR " POSSIBLE EUTHANSIA" BY THE SELLER, PRIOR TO REPLACING OR
REFUNDING.. THAT IS TO ME 'EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL' .
THAT KEEPS SOME SELLERS FROM HAVING TO DO ANYTHING , AS A WAY OF
COMPENSATION...AND COMPLETELY DISCOURAGES NEW PEOPLE COMING INTO THE BREED..WHO
PURCHASED ONE WHO HAD A SERIOUS AND EXPENSIVE HEALTH ISSUE, AND THEY STILL LOVE
IT,
AND WOULD NOT GIVE UP THE ONE THEY HAVE BEEN NURSING AND CARING FOR. AND
LOVE!!!! SO THEY GO UNCOMPENSATED AND OFTEN IGNORED BY THE SELLER PERSONALLY,
I
DO NOT BELIEVE, THE SELLER, SHOULD HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO
... SIMPLE AS THAT..I KNOW THAT IS UNPOPULAR BUT IT IS MY OPINION...
WHEN WE WERE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN BREEDING..I TOOK EVERY BIT OF MONEY
PAYED FOR A PUP OR ANY OLDER ONE AND PUT IT IN THE BANK AND WAITED FOR THEM
TO
BE ONE YEAR-OLD, PRELIMED, ETC.. , FOR PUPS, AND IN THE CASE OF AN OLDER ONE,
UNTIL THEY HAD ADJUSTED IN THEIR NEW HOME AND ALL WAS WELL WITH THEM AND THE
PEOPLE WHO HAD PURCHASED THEM...AND IF ALL WAS WELL, I FINALLY USED THE MONEY.
I KNEW I COULD NOT AFFORD TO PAY THE BUYER BACK FOR ALL THEIR TIME AND
EXPENSE PUT INTO THE PUPPY, AND TOLD THEM SO IN THE BEGINNING...BUT I COULD
OFFER
THEM THEIR PURCHASE PRICE BACK AND THEY KEPT THE PUPPY...AND WHENEVER POSSIBLE
I WOULD TRY TO GIVE THEM FREE ,ANOTHER ONE, IF THEY HAD BEEN CARING WELL FOR
AND LOVING THE ONE THEY HAD...
WE MUST NEVER LOSE SIGHT WITH THESE LARGE BREEDS...THAT GOOD HOMES DO NOT
GROW ON TREES!!!! NOT EVERYONE CAN CARE FOR NOR HANDLE NOR RAISE WELL A LARGE
BREED..
REALLY EXCELLENT, LOVING HOMES FOR THEM SHOULD BE OUR GOAL AND OUR REWARD!!!
WE ALWAYS STOOD BEHIND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OURS., FROM THE CRADLE TO THE
GRAVE...
SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING I ASK OF OTHERS, I WOULDN'T DO MYSELF..
.ALL THE OLD TIME BREEDERS DID , FOR THE MOST PART..
WE JUST USED COMMON SENSE AND A SENSE OF FAIRNESS AND THAT WORKED BETTER
THAN CONTRACTS... BARB WILLIAMS
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