In a message dated 12/9/2006 11:45:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- Msg: #1 in digest From: "Sally" <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Critique` Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:36:51 -0600 Giving you all notice - Put a microphone in my hands and make me do a verbal critique and I will be blunt Fixed tail, missing tooth and could you do my hair that color too? Not saying LOL sally -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of carolyn mckenna Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 12:31 PM To: Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Critique` Absolutely !!!! So many posts have touched on "pp" judging. (poor or political) The in ring critique is a start for the cure. If the judge must give reasons for his placings, the AB judges would be forced to learn at least something about the breed. Of course the AKC is not going to allow that at the AB shows______just wishful thinking there. It could and should be done at the specialties. It used to be done by some of the greats in the breed. Lloyd Brackett and Ernie Loeb critiqued the first four in every class whether it was AB or specialty. Most other breeds require the judge to critique the placings in every class. Thus, the judge speaks into a hand held recorder, verbalizing the reasons for the placings, and then automatically has her material for the written critique to be published. When those placing have to be explained, it WILL be objective or the judge will be wearing the emporer's clothes. Carolyn Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 12/9/2006 10:51:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, SHOWGSD@xxxxxxx writes: >If everyone could do them as Dave did, I think it would be very >educational. If only we all had the ability for great oratory as Dave has. He did the same thing at our show and we all really appreciated his comments. It's a great way to do it....right when the dogs are still in the ring and placed as he wants them. Much easier than trying to remember 4 hours later why you placed a dog 4th in its class. I wouldn't mind giving critiques that way at all....if asked, I will do it. Jamie > > asked, I will do it. > Jamie > > REGINALD CLEVELAND USED TO DO THAT AT SPECIALTY SHOWS AND NATIONALS.. A COUPLE OF OTHERS DID TOO. THE AKC STOPPED IT.. SAID IT WAS TOO CONTROVERSIAL.. BARB W. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================