Great post on movement!! Brenda -----Original Message----- From: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:45 PM Subject: showgsd-l Digest V3 #3228 showgsd-l Digest Thu, 16 Nov 2006 Volume: 03 Issue: 3228 In This Issue: #1: From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: an excellent read #2: From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx> Subject: Delta Airlines & Nationals #3: From: LEWIEB@xxxxxxx Subject: Two Long Coat Need Rescue #4: From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Fadng puppy - liver water recipe.. #5: From: "Robert Dir" <dir@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Need Some Help Re: Movement #6: From: "Robert Dir" <dir@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Movement/ floating v. driving ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: an excellent read Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:07:20 -0500 http://www.patriotgold.com/49days.htm Great article! Ginger Cleary, Rome, GA Never underestimate the ability of the hypocritical to hoodwink the sanctimonious. www.rihadin.com ------------------------------ Msg: #2 in digest From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx> Subject: Delta Airlines & Nationals Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:11:20 -0800 Considering that DELTA has claimed to have lost millions we need to take this kind of news seriously even though DELTA claims it is not interested at this point. The simple fact is that the airlines are changing.....our future for shipping dogs is not looking great. Failure of this plan by USAir does not mean USAir or America West will not take over another airline that does ship dogs. Each airline is struggling ..........and things change. To be pro-active we all need to try help our Show Site Chair person look for future sites with the possiblity of two or three semi permanent or permanent sites in mind. It's coming.....and before it's an emergency and we still have some control .....we need to help. If you live near any of the main hub airports......please keep this in mind and take the time to seriously look for facilities. We all need to consider the future and success of our National and our Breed..... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com I am forwarding this with permission. Anyone hear about this? This is definitely NOT good for the National if it happens! Ginger Cleary, Rome, GA -----Original Message----- I don't know how many of you have heard of the proposed merger that US Air has made to acquire Delta Airlines after they emerge from bankruptcy this year. I urge you all to think about this, and the service that Delta gives 'us' pet/showdog owners and to write to Delta and the FDA asking them NOT to go through with this merger/acquisition and giving your reasons! If US Air takes over Delta, there will be no more Delta Dash Pet, you will no longer be able to fly your pet Cargo either. US Air did away with any pet travel over a year ago and will do so with Delta after they acquire them as well. In a time when we are losing hotels, and now airlines are taking away needed services as well we have to make our positions known. Personally, I have refused to fly US Air since they refused to carry animals. Even on trips I want to take without animals. I have written to them and explained my situation and sent my airmiles back to them! I have told them WHEN they allow animals again then and only then will I come back to US Air. I continue to receive "we're so sorry your unhappy but please come back, WE MISS YOU" notes. And once again I write them when they allow animals to fly again, only then. Ali ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest From: LEWIEB@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:33:23 EST Subject: Two Long Coat Need Rescue First of all I would like to say thank you to Dawn for monitoring the Rescue Boards for dogs who are in need of help. I also was sent a post from another person who said they visited these two dogs who are at Winding River Board Kennel and are going to be put down. Thought I should tell you the rest of the story. Winding River is my Vet. Dr. Dan Hecker, the Kennel is about 3/4 mile from my house and we have visited these two dogs many times. Yes, the owner moved to Germany, paid the board for many months and then just stopped. I do not know who posted these dogs were friendly, they are NOT. You cannot feed them without being attacked, bared teeth and all that. You actually have to let them outside, put their food inside and then let them back inside to eat. Close the door so you can clean up their run while they are inside. Make eye contact, the war is on. Several club members have tried to help these dogs to no avail. Now here is the sad part about Rescue, not all dogs can be placed in another home. Yes, thank goodness most can but some cannot and these two are in that category. When posts are sent out across the country it all seems cold hearted and that is just not the case. When Anne Mackey, who is currently trying to capture a loose and very wild dog that is running Swope Park, tells me there is no hope for these two dogs you know it is serious and a true shame. So to Dawn and others, thanks for being there and for making sure everyone is aware of how much Rescue is needed and how important it is to be a responsible breeder and responsible pet owner. However, maybe we can work together with educational materials and an objective to reduce the number of dogs needing rescued. Lew ------------------------------ Msg: #4 in digest Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:38:02 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Fadng puppy - liver water recipe.. I have used this and it is as good as they say it is. Works wonders on a fading pup. Terry Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: For Jim and anyone else (people should file this recipe and instructions away: Beef Liver Remedy For Fading Puppies It's so simple...Large piece of Beef Liver-little bit of water-boil slowly,about 5 minutes until the blood comes out. Let cool-drain the liquid and put just 4 drops (no matter the breed) into a dropper and give to puppy. At first you give it every 2 hours for 12 hours, then every 4 hours. The article says you can do this for however long you have to until you feel the puppy is thriving. I did this for 2 days and the turn around was miraculous. This was the smallest puppy -- just 4 ounces -- out of a litter of 7. He was doing fine for 3 days and then began to fade. After only the second dose he came around, but I continued for 2 days. Don't use any of the liver itself-it's way too rich--just the liquid. I wouldn't have another litter without a piece of beef liver in the freezer. I just spoke to a friend who has a much larger breed and she said she gave the 4 drops every hour for 12 hours, and then went to every 2 hours -then to 4 hours. So I guess you can vary it for different breeds. She agreed it was amazing. She had 2 fading puppies and they are fine now. Mimi Winkler, author; shared by Peggy M DstnGSD1@xxxxxxx wrote: >OK list I need help. I've got eight puppies born by c-section Sunday about 4 >am. they were all very vigorous at birth now I notice the smallest seems to >be fading. She was laying for a long time on the heating pad, and I fear >dehydration. Someone once mentioned a formula for milk >replacement.....condensed >milk, kayo syrup, egg yolk or something ....I have a bottle. she seems to be >an inefficient nurser. >I can get Esimilac at a local farm & fleet, would that be better? >Any help would be appreciated. >Thanks. >Jim > >============================================================================ >POST is Copyrighted 2006. 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Find Out! ------------------------------ Msg: #5 in digest From: "Robert Dir" <dir@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Need Some Help Re: Movement Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:36:45 -0600 DOESN'T A PISTON GO UP AND DOWN? Just asking. sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn mckenna" <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx> To: <Gsdman2@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Need Some Help Re: Movement > Ahh, Tom, what a good post ! However, you did not respond to > "and their motion is piston like" Piston like ? Uggggg. > Carolyn > Gsdman2@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 11/14/2006 10:19:38 PM Central > Standard Time, > jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > When I talk > about gait that I see now, I see a lot of nice looking animals that > have good front reach, solid mid-pieces that transmit well, good > under reach and follow through in the rear and are well balanced. > Their ligaments are tight and their motion is piston like and hard > driving and they go like hell. I can't really fault them. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > You're doing your best to make an important statement without offending > anyone. I'm not sure that it is possible to make a critical observation > about the > breed and not criticize the dogs that represent it. The truth is, as you > have > observed ... suspension is becoming harder to find. I believe the reason > for that is easy to see. Powerful rear drive, which is the most important > ingredient for suspension, has been on the decline for years. I noticed > at this > year's national that several dogs appeared to take long strides at their > ideal > speeds, usually with tension on the lead. Those same dogs, when trying to > catch up with dogs that were moving away from them, sped up their steps to > accomplish that. Dogs that use energy saving suspension do not speed up > their steps. > They drive harder with the rear, increasing the amount of ground they are > covering by suspending into the next stride. I haven't given up hope > though. > Eventually a great moving, ground eating superstar will once again hit the > ring, instantly opening everyone's eyes to great suspension once again. I > honestly think it's just a matter of time. > Tom Langlitz > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. 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Top schools > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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His topline > levelled out, his head dropped in line, his center of gravity dropped > about four inches and EVERYTHING opened up - front and rear. Other > handlers stopped working their own dogs to watch this guy TAKE the big > ring. > No dog is perfect and each has their own faults but there was nothing that > could touch this guy when he really wanted to go. The dog was Ch > Caralands Sword V Lebarland, affectionately known as "Cutter' to those who > loved him. What a moving machine! I didn't own him, didn't breed him, > never judged him and don't have any of his progeny - so I have nothing to > gain by talking about him other than to say that, as a judge he defined > the 'flying trot' for me in one pass and affected the way I will look at > movement forever. > > Suzanne > www.tsalishepherds.com > Home of Ch Cookie HT PT RN TC CGC, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy HIC HT PT > RA CD TC CGC BH, Ch Flash, Mousser (13 points/1 mjr), Tess [150 PLUS ROM > points/40 ATAA points], and Lil' Miss Gilli RN[Mjr Res Winner]! Website > updated 08/06 > > there is "floating" and there is "driving". If I'm interpreting >> Jim's post correctly, he's missing the "driving". >> >> I've had both. "Floating" is very, very pretty. "Driving" is powerful, >> IMO >> correct, and, sadly IME sometimes overlooked in favor of "pretty". >> Driving >> is rather easy to spot. A dog will drop their head and their center of >> gravity will move forward as the energy expends from the rear. > >> Kathy > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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