The Blog Is GREAT !!!!!!!! I so enjoyed it as I couldn't go.. Evan , your comments as always most enjoyable, and I do realize that they are just your opinion and whether I agree or not....Please continue doing the Blog.....Sincerely Flo Boese ,"Bo-Hem Shepherds" ( and now back to lurking) -----Original Message----- From: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:17 AM Subject: showgsd-l Digest V3 #2957 showgsd-l Digest Thu, 26 Oct 2006 Volume: 03 Issue: 2957 In This Issue: #1: From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Best Puppy/Best Opposite #2: From: "PATRICIA WALKER" <TishWalker5@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Review Editor contract #3: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Best Puppy/Best Opposite #4: From: joanne conboy <fellswayshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Herding Brag #5: From: pagairs@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Review Editor contract #6: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Review Editor contract #7: From: pagairs@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Review Editor contract #8: From: "PATRICIA WALKER" <TishWalker5@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Electronic Ballots #9: From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Thoughts from a Newbie/ tiers (and tears) #10: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Review Editor contract #11: From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Review Editor contract #12: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Electronic Ballots #13: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Review Editor contract #14: From: pagairs@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Review Editor contract #15: From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: The National Thread and personal attacks* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:55:10 EDT Subject: Re: Best Puppy/Best Opposite In a message dated 10/26/2006 9:24:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, helen@xxxxxxxxxx writes: I was instructed to judge all four puppies by the Show Superintendent. I'm glad I did. I loved the little 6-9 bitch. She has an amazing future ahead. The 9-12 bitch was lovely in motion and won a deserving Best of Winners. Now, when I think about it, isn't it nice that both little girls dogs got to go home with an extra ribbon. Helen WHAT? BOW? When???? And, no, if a dog is ineligible, they're ineligible. If not, lets just print up pretty ribbons and everyone could go home with some. It would be "nice". And the SUPER????? Someone from RAU made the call???? OMG! Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ------------------------------ Msg: #2 in digest From: "PATRICIA WALKER" <TishWalker5@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Review Editor contract Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:57:35 -0400 Were there changes in club policy that allow the = editor to show dogs? =20 Laurie Yes Laurie. The Board voted to eliminate that policy from the P & P. 5 or 6 Board members voted against it. Tish ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:58:00 EDT Subject: Re: Best Puppy/Best Opposite In a message dated 10/26/2006 8:57:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: The 9-12 bitch was lovely in motion and won a deserving Best of Winners. Now, when I think about it, isn't it nice that both little girls dogs got to go home with an extra ribbon. She took RWB, not BOW Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC ------------------------------ Msg: #4 in digest Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:58:19 -0700 (PDT) From: joanne conboy <fellswayshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Herding Brag Before we left for the national we went to the Herding Trials at Central Mass on Oct 14th & 15th. Our beautiful Shania earned her PT. She is now Am & Can CH Fellsway Shania Twain, OFA H & E, HIC, PT. What a great time we had and shania really came alive on sunday! Boy the sheep were pretty frisky... You pretty much had to run in front of them because it seems they were in a rush to get somewhere! Susan Sullivan had 5 PT students and all past. Great teacher! Shania is sired by Sel CH Riverdells Black Ice, OFA and her dam is CH Fellsway Meg Ryan OFA. Owners: Jan Weatherbee and Joanne Conboy Breeders: Joanne Conboy & Barbara & Frank Lopez We will start training for her HS next year. It really is a lot of fun to see the dogs work naturally. Joanne Conboy fellswayshepherds@xxxxxxxxx --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ------------------------------ Msg: #5 in digest Subject: Re: Review Editor contract Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:02:12 -0400 From: pagairs@xxxxxxx Common sense would tell anyone that if the editor cannot participate in our sport, then why should a seated board member be a judge, breeder or exhibitor. Maybe our club should be run by those who have no idea about the breed or sport............... Gary -----Original Message----- From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx To: pruett@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 8:49 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Review Editor contract In a message dated 10/26/2006 6:01:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, pruett@xxxxxxxxx writes: Just read the Board-O-Gram this morning. I saw the the board ratified the = editor's contract. Were there changes in club policy that allow the = editor to show dogs? =20 Laurie Yes, it was passed that the review editor can show, exhibit, steward etc....all the things that had been defined in the P&P that were off limits before for a sitting editor. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Msg: #6 in digest From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:04:15 EDT Subject: Re: Review Editor contract In a message dated 10/26/2006 9:02:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, PAGAIRS writes: Common sense would tell anyone that if the editor cannot participate in our sport, then why should a seated board member be a judge, breeder or exhibitor. Maybe our club should be run by those who have no idea about the breed or sport............... Gary A seated board member is not an employee, receives no pay. There is a difference. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC ------------------------------ Msg: #7 in digest Subject: Re: Review Editor contract Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:06:05 -0400 From: pagairs@xxxxxxx Not in the opinion of the Ad Hoc committee, which voted to remove the condition, nor the majority of the board. We all know what they say about opinions! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx To: PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx; pruett@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Review Editor contract In a message dated 10/26/2006 9:02:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, PAGAIRS writes: Common sense would tell anyone that if the editor cannot participate in our sport, then why should a seated board member be a judge, breeder or exhibitor. Maybe our club should be run by those who have no idea about the breed or sport............... Gary A seated board member is not an employee, receives no pay. There is a difference. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Msg: #8 in digest From: "PATRICIA WALKER" <TishWalker5@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Electronic Ballots Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:08:05 -0400 Cyndy Davis Stated: I am a member of several professional organizations, and all use electronic ballots for voting. An email address is not necessary. For those without email addresses, a letter is sent to the member with instructions for voting, and an individual code/password to identify them to the website. I think this system was used when the survey of the membership was done a couple years ago on National show sites, dates, etc., etc. That seemed to have worked pretty well. Tish ------------------------------ Msg: #9 in digest From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:09:21 EDT Subject: Re: Thoughts from a Newbie/ tiers (and tears) In a message dated 10/25/2006 7:10:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dir@xxxxxxxxxx writes: THANK YOU SYD. I made friends with a newbie--sort of--in the last 2 years. She has finished a beautiful bitch this year which I supported and has a STAR dog that did a biggie at the National this year--I supported. Seems interests are different at this point. Kinda makes you feel bad--ya know. Sandi Sandi, Ken and I feel your pain, lol..We went through the same over the last couple of years, supporting and working our butts off to help someone that wanted to "go to the top" , and did, in very short order. This year we saw the real intent, and lack of give a damn about the dog, and the social status at any cost ....still digging the dagger out from our shoulder blades. I would not wish such an experience on anyone like the one we have had, live and learn. Fortunately there are not too many "use you and lose you" types and lot of really good people out there...and although a bit more careful now, we still enjoy watching someone we are supportive of, and loyal to, rise to the top. It is one of the greatest pleasure in dog showing. I love to watch good people and good friends win. Kathy ------------------------------ Msg: #10 in digest From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:10:15 EDT Subject: Re: Review Editor contract In a message dated 10/26/2006 9:06:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, PAGAIRS writes: Not in the opinion of the Ad Hoc committee, which voted to remove the condition, nor the majority of the board. We all know what they say about opinions! Gary Differences of opinions are the strengths of each organization. If everyone agreed all the time there would be no need for the democratic process. It is always good to hear all and consider it. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC ------------------------------ Msg: #11 in digest From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:12:05 EDT Subject: Re: Review Editor contract In a message dated 10/26/2006 7:08:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx writes: A seated board member is not an employee, receives no pay. There is a difference. Molly Really don't see the problem here, Folks. I thought we already watched our WONDERFUL Review Editor be crucified a few months ago???? Don't you people get enough? Kathy ------------------------------ Msg: #12 in digest From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:13:08 EDT Subject: Re: Electronic Ballots In a message dated 10/26/2006 9:09:17 A.M. Central Standard Time, TishWalker5@xxxxxxx writes: think this system was used when the survey of the membership was done a couple years ago on National show sites, dates, etc., etc. That seemed to have worked pretty well. It was used along with mail in ballots for those that did not have computers. It appeared to be the way to go, getting responses back in a timely fashion. I could be wrong but I think more people were involved in it than the voting process. Perhaps we could even get a higher percentage of members having input. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC ------------------------------ Msg: #13 in digest From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:16:37 EDT Subject: Re: Review Editor contract In a message dated 10/26/2006 9:14:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx writes: Really don't see the problem here, Folks. I thought we already watched our WONDERFUL Review Editor be crucified a few months ago???? Don't you people get enough? Kathy A question was asked and answered....wherein lies the problem? This is not personal, it is about procedure. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC ------------------------------ Msg: #14 in digest Subject: Re: Review Editor contract Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:17:04 -0400 From: pagairs@xxxxxxx Couldn't agree more. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx To: PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx; pruett@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Review Editor contract In a message dated 10/26/2006 9:06:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, PAGAIRS writes: Not in the opinion of the Ad Hoc committee, which voted to remove the condition, nor the majority of the board. We all know what they say about opinions! Gary Differences of opinions are the strengths of each organization. If everyone agreed all the time there would be no need for the democratic process. It is always good to hear all and consider it. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Msg: #15 in digest From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:17:42 EDT Subject: Re: The National Thread and personal attacks* In a message dated 10/25/2006 10:17:41 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Kay is right. Evan, you should know better! Anyone who complains about the blog is equal to the people who complain when they lose at a show...tell them to go and fry ice. When we can't be there, the blog is the highlight of our days ... when we ARE there, we come home and read the blog to see what we missed. If you need more help with it, I'm sure you'll have volunteers elbow deep...and anyone who doesn't appreciate the effort you put into the blog should just take a long walk off a short pier... (I'm full of trite sayings tonite)........I can't imagine what they have to complain about, but there are always going to be those who complain because they wake up in the morning, I'm sure... Don't let those naysayers spoil it for those of us who love the blog! Poop on them...!!!!!!!!!! I cannot imagine anyone complaining about the blog.....good grief. Bah Humbug. If they don't want to read it then they have the option of just going to the PC website and gettng results, "just the facts, ma'am". Part of the charm and attraction of the Blog is the spontaneity and the "you are there" feel to it. Part of the charm is also sometime the irreverent humor, albeit very subtle. Evan, I wouldn't change a damn thing. You and Dania do a great job. It is a lifeline for people staying at home, and those who are psuedo offended ( by what I cannot imagine) can just NOT READ IT. The blog is great...and sooo appreciated by so many. Kathy ------------------------------ End of showgsd-l Digest V3 #2957 ******************************** ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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