In a message dated 9/8/2006 9:00:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- In a message dated 9/8/2006 10:42:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx writes: The standard has been set for decades.Why is it not being followed? Many breeders breed to the specialty judges' tastes. The all breed judges do not always know what is a really good shepherd, but usually they know what is clean moving (a top priority in the GSD standard), (which specialty people seem to deride as a flaw/joke in all breed judging) (can I do triple parentheses?) And the dogs they choose usually look like a shepherd. Syd (I think the buck stops there...in the center of the ring.) SYD MAILBERG 23910 SE 276TH ST MAPLE VALLEY, WA 98038 Why would anyone with any sense think a clean front and rear is a joke ? Any fault of gait is a serious fault includes coming and going. This is one specialty person who does NOT deride a clean front and rear as a flaw/joke in all breed or specialty judging. What I fault all rounders on is not recognizing correct movement. But then if they aren't shown it, they don't know it. Denise Groenewald SE Regional Representative for the GSDCA Responsible Animal Legislation Education Effort Federation _www.greenwoodshepherds.com_ (http://www.greenwoodshepherds.com/) SYD: I didn't write that Line , Candy wrote that and I responded to her... I 'll see if I can find what I wrote and send it , I originally had posted my answer to another List. ... Barb williams ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================