In a message dated 8/29/2006 7:55:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cinosam GSD and you probably will never have any issues with bloat. Cindy Why, If I may ask? What makes the chance of bloat greater with commercial food over raw food? How do you decide to feed a raw diet and how do you know what is the best to feed your dog when feeding a raw diet? Kathy Cindy: Kibble has nothing to do with Bloat/Torsion Gastric...Dr. Glickman and others have confirmed that finding...It is a Matter of Genetics...If a Dog is Genetically pre-disposed to Bloat and/or Torsion (Gastric) he or she can do it on a completely empty stomach /overloaded with water intake/a diet of whatever ?/. Stress...etc... ...etc. etc. Please do not rely on Raw Food to prevent Bloat/Torsion (Gastric)... after studying and researching this problem for many years, I am offering my personal opinion, backed up by Veterinary Research ...for over 45 years of Research and collecting pedigrees on it...It is passed on , as a Dominant with Limited Penetration... I wish to all the Fates we had the answer!!!!!!!!!! Bloat/Torsion Gastric and Mesenteric and Cancer are the leading causes of death in our German Shepherd Breed... next is Mega-Esophagus and Cardiac.and Spinal Neurological Disease and Auto-Immune Diseases... . and I call on anyone who has experienced Bloat/Torsion (Gastric) to please submit pedigrees (kept confidential) and any information that may help the on-going Research... I have been looking at the Gall Bladder as a possible catalyst, under-lying cause, but it looks to be a dead-end... so I am back at researching the Spleen and the Pancreas...Barb Williams/GSDCA Chairman of the Health & Genetics Committee.. .. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================