[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #2193
- From: "Susan Gionfriddo" <gsheps@xxxxxxx>
- To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:59:06 -0400
Thank you to all who have provided me with Helen Franklin's e-mail address.
Also, it was mentioned I should have signed my name. Sorry, I don't normally
post to the list. I honestly thought my name and e-mail address just shows up
automatically.
Susan Zimmer- Gionfriddo
Zimsu German Shepherds
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To: showgsd-l digest users<mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: showgsd-l Digest V3 #2193
showgsd-l Digest Mon, 14 Sep 2009 Volume: 03 Issue: 2193
In This Issue:
#1: From: MARILEE WILKINSON
<marifiorigsd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marifiorigsd@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Thank you, Sue Godek
#2: From: janbraeloch@xxxxxxx<mailto:janbraeloch@xxxxxxx>
Subject: a beautiful tribute to all of our troops and patriots
#3: From: gretchanya@xxxxxxx<mailto:gretchanya@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Looking for a vet in MA
#4: From: "Carol Weale" <dankagsd01@xxxxxxx<mailto:dankagsd01@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
#5: From: Brenda Payne <gsdpaz2@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsdpaz2@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Video Canadian Nationals
#6: From: Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: THE GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG TEMPERAMENT
#7: From: TRocknroll@xxxxxxx<mailto:TRocknroll@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Help Needed
#8: From: annasylvain@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:annasylvain@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Video Canadian Nationals
#9: From: SallyHH31@xxxxxxx<mailto:SallyHH31@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Vidio --Stand by me
#10: From: Sandra Kozub <skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
#11: From: gsdbroon@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsdbroon@xxxxxxx>
Subject: AKC DELEGATE'S MEETING IN NJ
#12: From: myjoygs@xxxxxxx<mailto:myjoygs@xxxxxxx>
Subject: GV and selects
#13: From: "Susan Gionfriddo" <gsheps@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsheps@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #2192
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Msg: #1 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:08:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: MARILEE WILKINSON
<marifiorigsd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marifiorigsd@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Thank you, Sue Godek
A Breeder's Brag::::
At the Rheinland Kennel Club Show (MO) in Sullivan, MO, Ms. Godek awarded
dogs, out my my kennel, that I own, co-own & stud's progeny 1st Open Male,
second & third American-Bred male and 2nd Open bitch. It was a good day. Thank
you, again.
Marilee Wilkinson
Pevely, MO
Life may not be the party we hoped for~but while we are here, we might as
well dance.
Marilee and Mari-Fiori Shepherds
Home of AM CH/CAN SEL CH Mari-Fiori's Ruffian of Judeen, HIC OFA,
AM/CAN CH Mari-Fiori's BoldRuler Judeen, OFA,
CH Mari-Fiori's Winning Colors, TT, OFA,
Member of GSDC St. Louis since 1985: Member GSDCA since 1977
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Msg: #2 in digest
Subject: a beautiful tribute to all of our troops and patriots
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:16:28 -0400
From: janbraeloch@xxxxxxx<mailto:janbraeloch@xxxxxxx>
> For you veterans out there and you patriots, this one's for
you.
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL-0mdEg0U4&feature=related<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL-0mdEg0U4&feature=related>
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Msg: #3 in digest
Subject: Looking for a vet in MA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:31:13 -0400
From: gretchanya@xxxxxxx<mailto:gretchanya@xxxxxxx>
Hi all -
I have a puppy buyer in Arlington, Mass., who needs a good vet. Anyone have a
suggestion?
Becky T. Dickson
www.gretchanya.com<http://www.gretchanya.com/>
www.gsdbydesign.com<http://www.gsdbydesign.com/>
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Msg: #4 in digest
From: "Carol Weale" <dankagsd01@xxxxxxx<mailto:dankagsd01@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:51:04 -0700
I think it depends on WHY many breed to a certain dog. Do they do it
because everybody else is doing it and want to jump on the band wagon? Do
they do it because someone told them it is the next up & coming thing to do?
Or, do they do it because they have a very strong SET type that they have
worked long and hard for and feel they can cover what might be week in that
stud dog line, while getting some of the other qualities that is being
produced, such as bone and substance. Some people don't know what they like
because they don't know what is correct. They do what is suggested by
someone who they think is knowledgable.
One the other hand, there are people who are definite in what they like and
prefer and do not follow the crowd.
I think the preference of many changed to fall into line with what was being
produced and winning.
I personally would sell the farm before I would chance a short upper arm and
lifting. Is that wrong?, not for me.
I do agree with Linda B that it is very unfeeling to hang some stud dog out
to dry on this list. If you got something you didn't like, move on.
Maybe it's the bitch!! Whenever we do a breeding, we are taking a chance on
getting something we didn't plan on.
It's a tough game and nobody walks away without some failures. We just need
to learn how to fail forward.
Carol
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Peet & Jenn Somogyi"
<foxfels@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:foxfels@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
To: "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:35 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Dallas and sons
But I *personally* have to wonder - and I do own a Dallas G-daughter, and
like to look at a lot of what has come from him - did Dallas better the
breed, or did the breed change to suit what Dallas produced?
There are a lot of other great stud dogs out there, perhaps with a little
less promotion and notoriety...
Jenn
~~
Ron Peet and Jenn Somogyi
Foxhunter and Kiefernfels Kennels
Ontario, Canada
http://www.foxfels.ca<http://www.foxfels.ca/>
----- Original Message -----
From: <lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
To: "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:24 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Dallas and sons
>
>  I agree that some very nice bitches were bred to Dallas. We had some
> problems in our breed; lack of bone and substance, over all soundness
> mentally and physically. Dallas was able to balance this out. The owners
> were smart enough to go out and find the right bitches. More power to
> them! What is lacking in some posts is recognizing the fact that the dog
> obviously passed on some great genetic traits through his sons/grandsons.Â
> You can't deny this when you go to highly competitive shows and see the
> winners.Â
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Msg: #5 in digest
Subject: Video Canadian Nationals
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:52:02 -0400
From: Brenda Payne <gsdpaz2@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsdpaz2@xxxxxxx>>
Was there anyone doing video's this year at the CA Nationals, and if so does
someone have a number or email?
Everyone have a fabulous day~
?Brenda Payne
www.jescarkennels.com<http://www.jescarkennels.com/>
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Msg: #6 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:00:19 -0400
From: Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: THE GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG TEMPERAMENT
http://insidethegermanshepherddogsworld.blogspot.com/<http://insidethegermanshepherddogsworld.blogspot.com/>
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Msg: #7 in digest
From: TRocknroll@xxxxxxx<mailto:TRocknroll@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:02:54 EDT
Subject: Help Needed
Looking for a place (preferably) someone's home to park my van while
traveling with a friend to Nationals. We are connecting in Spokane,
Washington
to travel cross country to the Nationals. Looking for someone located near
I-90. My van is a Toyota Sienna Mini Van and does not leak oil, etc. LOL
Any help is much appreciated.
Terry
Terry & Larry Rock
FaithRock German Shepherds
Saint Helens, OR 97051
503.397.1325
Home of Dual Titles and CHIC's
The Champion Beach Boy' Litter
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Msg: #8 in digest
Subject: Re: Video Canadian Nationals
From: annasylvain@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:annasylvain@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:06:46 +0000
John Gibbons did the video, here is his e-mail:
Tamar.kennels@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Tamar.kennels@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Anna
Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brenda Payne <gsdpaz2@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsdpaz2@xxxxxxx>>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:52:02
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Video Canadian Nationals
Was there anyone doing video's this year at the CA Nationals, and if so does
someone have a number or email?
Everyone have a fabulous day~
?Brenda Payne
www.jescarkennels.com<http://www.jescarkennels.com/>
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Msg: #9 in digest
From: SallyHH31@xxxxxxx<mailto:SallyHH31@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:18:34 EDT
Subject: Re: Vidio --Stand by me
didn't work for me either
In a message dated 9/14/2009 6:50:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
http://vimeo,com/moogaloop.swf?dip_id2539741<http://vimeo,com/moogaloop.swf?dip_id2539741>
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Msg: #10 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:24:45 -0500
From: Sandra Kozub <skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
Thanks! I have been waiting for someone to mention that all of these
"great" progeny also had mothers & some of
their success has to be due to the dam's - 50% of the genes!
In fact, some of the bitches may be contributing many of the good
qualities. One time I had a very nice bitch from
very good bloodlines but not inbred on those lines. Anyway, I bred her
three times (the most that I will ever breed).
There were dogs (males) from each of the three breedings that looked almost
like twins. The sires of these litters were NOT
related to each other in at least four generations.
Congratulations to all of these progeny being discussed & BOTH their sire
and their dams!!
Sandy
At 12:04 PM 9/14/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>My intention was not to review Dallas's direct or indirect contributions -
>I am very aware of what they are. But rather to ask the question of
>whether any other dog(s) with similar strengths would have accomplished
>the same or perhaps even more.
>by benefiting from the formula that he did.
>I don't deny the success, I analyze it honestly to determine its value to
>me as a breeder and how it came to be
>
>Additionally I wanted to give particular credit to those breeders with
>fabulous bitches who produced those sons that are better then the father
>in all aspects, since the original poster had omitted their contribution
>completely
>Kudo's to the momma's who I think contributed far more then you think,
>particularly to those at the top of the heap.
>
>regards,
>
>M
Sandra Kozub
KcK Kennels
http://iweb.tntech.edu/rkozub/kennel.htm<http://iweb.tntech.edu/rkozub/kennel.htm>
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Msg: #11 in digest
Subject: AKC DELEGATE'S MEETING IN NJ
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:41:22 -0400
From: gsdbroon@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsdbroon@xxxxxxx>
The AKC Board of Directors has removed the 'realignment of breeds' issue
before the Delegates' meeting.? Too much opposition
viv
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Msg: #12 in digest
Subject: GV and selects
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:42:45 -0400
From: myjoygs@xxxxxxx<mailto:myjoygs@xxxxxxx>
I am sorry if this was posted, I must have missed it.? Does anyone have who
went GV and the select dogs at the Canadian National?
Thanks in advance
Joyce Willis
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Msg: #13 in digest
From: "Susan Gionfriddo" <gsheps@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsheps@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #2192
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:44:35 -0400
Does anyone have Helen Franklin's current e-mail address? I would like to
write her a POSITIVE statement. Geez, the poor woman just happens to mention
certain lines that are producing and all hell seemed to break loose! We need to
be a little more positive in this day and age. I am not saying be blind to
certain things, just a little more kind.
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To: showgsd-l digest
users<mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: showgsd-l Digest V3 #2192
showgsd-l Digest Mon, 14 Sep 2009 Volume: 03 Issue: 2192
In This Issue:
#1: From:
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
#2: From:
Epeters93@xxxxxxx<mailto:Epeters93@xxxxxxx<mailto:Epeters93@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:Epeters93@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Anyone coming to Ohio from Florida with room for another
#3: From:
lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
#4: From:
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
#5: From:
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: CAN GVX
#6: From:
Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx<mailto:Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx<mailto:Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: CAN GVX
#7: From: "Rebecca Little"
<pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
Subject: GSDCA Logo use
#8: From: "Joan Fox"
<campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>>>
Subject: Re: GSDCA Logo use
#9: From:
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: CAN GVX
#10: From: "pmick12"
<pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
Subject: Re: Vidio --Stand by me
#11: From: "pmick12"
<pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
Subject: Goosebump time
#12: From: "Pat Lukos"
<targa50@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:targa50@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:targa50@xxxxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:targa50@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
Subject: Western PA Specialty
#13: From: "Carol Weale"
<dankagsd01@xxxxxxx<mailto:dankagsd01@xxxxxxx<mailto:dankagsd01@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:dankagsd01@xxxxxxx>>>
Subject: Re: THE LONG COATED SHEPHERD
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Msg: #1 in digest
From:
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:50:01 EDT
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
question posed to me this (early) morning
""are you a Dallas hater too?""
(my answer, so that I cant be misquoted later......LOL)
listen, knucklehead.......(this is a term of endearment)
I dont hate Dallas, do yo realize how stupid that sounds? Hating a dog you
never even lived with?
I have a Bronson son, whom I ADORE!!! I have a Bailey daughter, the apple
of my eyes!!
They have MOMS too.
Like I tell my kids, all their good stuff comes from me.....ROTFLMAO!!
How about you go have a cup of decaf and a chill pill?
Ileana
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Msg: #2 in digest
From:
Epeters93@xxxxxxx<mailto:Epeters93@xxxxxxx<mailto:Epeters93@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:Epeters93@xxxxxxx>>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:59:00 EDT
Subject: Anyone coming to Ohio from Florida with room for another
Long story shortened: There is a bitch in the Orlando Florida area that I
need to bring to Ohio sometime in October. Just so happens the Nationals
are in Ohio this year. Is there anyone that has room to transport her?
The owner will deliver to your location of choice at time of choice within
a
2-3 hour drive of Orlando area. I will pick her up the minute you arrive
at the Nationals with a couple hours notice. Please email me privately:
_epeters93@xxxxxxx<mailto:_epeters93@xxxxxxx<mailto:_epeters93@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:_epeters93@xxxxxxx>>_
(mailto:epeters93@xxxxxxx<mailto:epeters93@xxxxxxx<mailto:epeters93@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:epeters93@xxxxxxx>>)
Thank You! :)
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Msg: #3 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:04:17 +0000 (UTC)
From:
lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
Obviously your mother and her bloodlines have better tact then mine. LOL
 I would have gone for the juggler!Â
listen,  ass &%$**le   Â
Â
----- Original Message -----
From:
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
To:
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Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:50:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Dallas and sons
question posed to me this (early) morning
Â
""are you a Dallas hater too?""
Â
Â
(my answer, so that I cant be misquoted later......LOL)
Â
listen, knucklehead.......(this is a term of endearment)
Â
I dont hate Dallas, do yo realize how stupid that sounds? Hating a dog you
Â
never even lived with?
Â
I have a Bronson son, whom I ADORE!!! Â I have a Bailey daughter, the Â
apple
of my eyes!!
They have MOMS too.
Â
Like I tell my kids, all their good stuff comes from  me.....ROTFLMAO!!
Â
How about you go have a cup of decaf and a chill pill?
Â
Ileana
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Msg: #4 in digest
From:
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:15:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Dallas and sons
In a message dated 9/14/2009 9:09:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
writes:
Obviously your mother and her bloodlines have better tact then mine. LOL
I would have gone for the juggler!
listen, ass &%$**le
I am having a Zen moment.....too tired from walking the dogs this morning,
not enough coffee yet....LOL
Ileana
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Msg: #5 in digest
From:
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:16:59 EDT
Subject: CAN GVX
What's the breeding on the Can GVX?
I was gone for the weekend and missed it all.
Ileana
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Msg: #6 in digest
From:
Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx<mailto:Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx<mailto:Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx>>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:18:56 EDT
Subject: Re: CAN GVX
In a message dated 9/14/2009 8:17:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx<mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx%3Cmailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>>
writes:
What's the breeding on the Can GVX?
I was gone for the weekend and missed it all.
Bono daughter, dam is Alan's breeding Kennelwoods Victoria Secret who I
believe has Manny behind her....
Molly
Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 ph 409-287-3940
Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont (recording secretary), Life member
CKC
"We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who
don't".
..Frank A Clark
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Msg: #7 in digest
From: "Rebecca Little"
<pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
Subject: GSDCA Logo use
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:38 -0400
I thought the GSDCA logo was not allowed to be used on anyones website? I
JUST saw it on a website with my own little eyes.
Rebecca Little
Peakes Brook German Shepherds
http://sites.centralpets.com/mammals/peakesbrookgsd/index.html<http://sites.centralpets.com/mammals/peakesbrookgsd/index.html<http://sites.centralpets.com/mammals/peakesbrookgsd/index.html%3Chttp://sites.centralpets.com/mammals/peakesbrookgsd/index.html>>
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Msg: #8 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:43:18 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
From: "Joan Fox"
<campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>>>
Subject: Re: GSDCA Logo use
Content-Type: Text/Plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's right Rebecca,
NO GSDCA logo's allowed... Of course, you can link to the GSDCA website a
nd
please do.
Send me the site and I will have the error fixed. Not many people know ab
out
it.
Joan
-------Original Message-------
From: Rebecca Little
Date: 9/14/2009 9:36:36 AM
To: freelist
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] GSDCA Logo use
I thought the GSDCA logo was not allowed to be used on anyones website? I
JUST saw it on a website with my own little eyes.
Rebecca Little
Peakes Brook German Shepherds
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From:
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:46:34 EDT
Subject: Re: CAN GVX
What's the breeding on the Can GVX?
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Bono daughter, dam is Alan's breeding Kennelwoods Victoria Secret who I
believe has Manny behind her....
Molly
GVX from GV from GV..........and there is mom......sounds like good
breedings.
but we'll let the breeders brag <G>
Ileana
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From: "pmick12"
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Subject: Re: Vidio --Stand by me
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:50:00 -0400
Well, that didn't work.
Peggy
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> Go to:
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Subject: Goosebump time
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From: "Pat Lukos"
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Subject: Western PA Specialty
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:05:10 -0400
It was again an honor for Last Hope to be asked to set up a table at the
GSDC of Western PA. As usual, this club did an outstanding job and I am proud
to be a member of it. Members and exhibitors were very generous in buying
tickets for the Chinese Auction and purchasing the gorgeous sweat shirts and
t-shirts and other miscellaneous items on our table for a grand total of $370
for Last Hope. With fall and winter quickly creeping up on us, the sweat
shirts were the big hit of the day :-) Thank you Sally!!
This money all goes for the pull fees, vet visits, s/n, etc. of GSDs pulled
from shelters or bad situations and moved on to forever homes or approved
rescues. Exhibitors have opened their hearts and pocket books to help us and
for this we truly appreciate it.
It was a pleasure to meet and talk with Ileana also; I love to put a face
with a name!
The Team from Last Hope Safe Haven
Pat Lukos
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From: "Carol Weale"
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Subject: Re: THE LONG COATED SHEPHERD
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:06:54 -0700
*** The
way I see it some unsuspecting breeder will breed to a really nice dog not
knowing about the coat factor and end up with a bunch of unwanted Coated
dogs.?*** JMO
The long coat is a minor fault, unlike fault in gait.
There is NO way some unsuspecting breeder will breed to a really nice dog
and end up 'with a bunch of unwanted coats' if the bitch doesn't carry the
coat factor. It takes two.
Carol
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: THE LONG COATED SHEPHERD
Long coats have become "Disqualifying" when?
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] THE LONG COATED SHEPHERD
I'm certainly not an expert on breeding but why would we want to pass on a
known disqualifing trait?? Worse than that is even if there aren't any coats
produced in the resulting litter, the coat factor will be in the line.? The
way I see it some unsuspecting breeder will breed to a really nice dog not
knowing about the coat factor and end up with a bunch of unwanted Coated
dogs.? JMO
Glenn
Shaden Shepherds
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: THE LONG COATED SHEPHERD
Carolyn,
I don't disagree with you often, but I have to here. It is a fault and we
all
know there are many finished champions with serious faults. There are
numerous
breeder judges that I have talked to that said they would put up a coat if
it
was the best dog and they should.
I kept my first coat in 30 years and now regret selling several others
before
her. She is almost perfect , except for her coat. No, I am not going to show
her. She is proving much more valuable as a brood bitch. Her name is No
Laughing
Matter and she is the 2009 #3 Fut-Mat Dam from one small litter and has a
champion and major reserve progeny at 12 months of age. Go to
www.Valerieharrington.com<http://www.valerieharrington.com/<http://www.valerieharrington.com%3chttp//www.valerieharrington.com/>>
and click on Events, the Wolverine gaiting photos,
if
you want to see her.
Ann
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: THE LONG COATED SHEPHERD
AH yes........I didn't even get into how most don't repel dirt.........<G>
Here we have "RED" clay / dirt......along with all the grasses and weeds
that
go with
living in the Country and on the trails or hiking.
Same way with poor feet or too much length of back, or too low stationed and
deep in body.....if
you take them out on trails in the rocks, etc....or along the rocky river
banks.....or herding.....you can
tell why all these flaws really do matter. We have a perfect Standard
IMO.
We kept a long coat .....once........when we lived up in the Mountains of
Donner
Lake / Lake Tahoe
area. The ice balls on her in the winter ( and they were LONG winters )
cured me......let alone
the black dirt up there and stickers when you take them out hiking
........and
they stay wet a lot longer
when swimming.
I learned early on from Eric Renner that they would not take them for Guide
Dogs
either for the
same reasons. Too much maintenance for a blind person.
On cement and couches a
nd patios and lawns they are fine. <G>
Carolyn
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From: Ruth Scheubler To: DaList Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: THE LONG COATED SHEPHERD DISQUALIFIED OR A
WINNER?
Good reply, Carolyn.
I also find there is a care issue when you have a dog with a long soft
coat
our in the field. In pet homes they are fine and on very short grass sheep
arenas, but get them out in brambles or those dreadfull foxtrails or screw
weed
and you have a huge issue. And then there is the adobe clay --
Ruth
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From: Carolyn Martello
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From: Barbara Galasso To: 'Showgsd-l' Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009
7:59
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Subject: THE LONG COATED SHEPHERD DISQUALIFIED OR A WINNER?
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Hi Barbara;
Great articles on your blog. I enjoy reading them and really
appreciate
the way you continue
to try to get a discussion about 'DOGS' started.
Regarding the subject about long coats I probably will be the "odd man
out"
on this one as they
are automatically 'disqualified' by us in our breedings for keeping, or
breeding. <G>
Even though it is considered a minor fault......we place long coat puppies
as
nice pets as quickly
as we can once they are vaccinated and clear the Vet check.
Occasionally
one is definitely as nice
as you describe in your article......but they are placed as pets and not
kept
for breeding purposes.
We have never utilized a long coat to try to get more coat in our
breedings
either. It just is not something
we felt we needed to do although we love a thick lush coat as much as
anyone.
I don't personally believe you have to breed to a coat to get a lush thick
coarse correct coat......?
Also, when we place a long coat puppy I really work at getting them in
homes
in the city where they are
just exposed to lawns and cement. <G>
We live in the Country......and in o
ur area when the deer migrate through in
the winter ticks can be a problem.
Also Fox Tail stickers and what I call 'Velcro' stickers are a problem
here
and our land is not ALL immaculate
lawns and the dogs are not kept in cement kennels but loose on the
property
much of the time. To try to deal
with a long coat with any of the issues described above...from ticks to
stickers in the area can be a real problem.
In the snow country......the snow 'balls up' in little balls of ice on
their
coat and won't easilty brush off.
Not to mention the simple fact that the coat is incorrect in it's
length.....BUT also in the texture. It is often
WAY too soft to repel dirt, water, stickers, etc.
I am just grateful for the loving homes that actually want a long coat to
place them in .....and I never worry
about letting a pup go that is wonderful in bone, or gait or conformation.
I love it when we have dogs that do not carry the coat factor. Just
another 'minor' fault to not have
to be concerned with. <G>
My goal is always to get all the wonderful attributes you
mentioned........
with a normal correct coat. <G>
Carolyn
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