In a message dated 8/25/2006 3:31:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- Msg: #8 in digest From: VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:19:08 EDT Subject: Re: the WHITE GSD In a message dated 8/25/2006 4:55:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Cocker Spaniel =3D=3D> English Cocker Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel Belgian Shepherd =3D=3D> Belgian Sheepdog, B.Terv, B.Mal English Cocker and Cocker Spaniels are two completely different breeds--didn't even start off from the same breed. Belgian sheepdog,Belgian Terv, Bel Mal are all considered as one breed in Canada. They are each judged as a separate breeds in the USA.No disqualifications,allowed in either country. Belgian Shepherd--Completely different and separate breed.Not related at all ,any more than the GSD is related to the three other Belgian breeds, I would suggest you get the AKC Complete Dog Book,which has the history and use,and how it came into being. The AKC is introducing new breeds all the time I just read up on the Leonberger,which I will have to judge after Jan 2007. A St. Bernard crossed with a Great Pyrenees. the recrossed with a St. Bernard again.and Swiss Pyrenees. A huge animal--150-175 # with a lion-like mane. It's always interesting to see new breeds created,but the WHITE GS is not a new,nor ever will be unless they try and make it something else Helen Miller Fisher I HOPE EVERYONE LISTENS TO HELEN'S WORDS OF WISDOM!!! SHE IS NOT ONLY A HIGHLY RESPECTED ALL-BREED JUDGE , SHE ALSO SERVED AS THE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE GSDCA AND HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE EDUCATION AND BREEDING / EXHIBITING AND HANDLING GERMAN SHEPHERDS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS!!! THIS LADY KNOWS WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT.!! ..BARB WILLIAMS ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================