In a message dated 8/8/2006 7:07:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- Msg: #5 in digest Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: john garnett <rdg718@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: kennels? hello to everyone on the list...first of all i wanted to thank everyone who answerd my newbie question on the grinding nails and cost on heartguard ,all of ya'll are awsum...well here is another newbie question...i'm thinking about buying this kennel, it is 10 ft long and 6ft tall 5 feet wide its made with hog panel 8gauge wire like square type fencing..has anyone use hog panel before?also what do you guys recommend for the flooring other than concrete?(dirt,wood shaving,etc)and for my other kennel ,i'm replacing the cyclone fence it has 13gauge now but my male shepherd keeps tearing it up.what gauge to u guys recommend i replace it with? thank you, (newbie john garnett) Hi John: If you are building only a small 'Holding Pen' for a German Shepherd to be in for a short amount of time..That might be big enough..But if he or she is to live in it or be confined in it for any length of time...they need a run that is at least 40 feet long and 8 to 10 feet wide.. With heavy duty chain link.. We use 10 gauge Chain Link..inside the Kennel Building... Then we have large Outdoor exercise pens that are 60 feet long and 30 feet wide.. They also get a trot around the Loop here (on the paved road) where we live on the Mountain, of about 2 miles a day, beside a Golf Cart.. One reason Shepherds or any other large Breeds chew up a run, is because they are too confined, and bored and need to EXERCISE and they want OUT !!! They are an Athletic Breed and you cannot confine them in small spaces or areas... They absolutely MUST have Room to RUN!!! They also need some toys for diversion to chew on like the large Black KING Kongs , ( which I buy by the gross because mine chew them up so fast>) or Large Nyla-Bones, etc...They must exercise their bodies and their minds, or they can be very destructive., and it also affects their health , mental and physical in detrimental ways, to be confined in small spaces.. .. . JMO barb Williams ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================