In a message dated 7/13/2006 1:40:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- Msg: #7 in digest From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:24:00 EDT Subject: Re: STANDARD-Saved best for last!!!!! In a message dated 7/13/2006 6:01:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, targa50@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I think this test can be a real blackmark on our breed (especially when not done properly) and tells the world that we have temperament problems that need to be "tested" in the ring. Pat, I think in my humble opinion that the only "blackmark" on our breed is when a dog fails to pass, or judges fail to administer it correctly. Other countries require it for their "Best of Breed competition, you never hear anyone say it is a negative thing regarding the breed. It is looked upon as necessary to maintain, or help maintain, proper temperament, and character for the breed, Without those things you have NO GSD. Kathy Victory....There's Something in a Name Kathy and All: I think it is a Grand idea!!! Hope it can be implemented. I do want to add a thought.. .The Judges who perform and Judge these Dogs reactions, etc. need to be bullet=proof themselves.. I've seen too many Judges who are actually afraid down deep of some of these dogs. Their approach is to timidly reach out and pat them on the head, covering the dogs eyes as they do so... A real no..no.. and also approaching them out of the sun and creating a black shadow... I am not saying not to do it, I am just saying you need lots of Bob Penny's out there doing the exams...Maybe we can clone him??? Barb Williams ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================