In a message dated 7/11/2006 10:06:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- Msg: #3 in digest From: "D.D. and Bonnie Ardoin" <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Standard- New Discussion Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:04:16 -0500 Candy = I agree with you about the "tail" problem but the discussion I wanted to start was about the Standard not mentioning the functions of the tail in motion. So you severely fault the tail you describe while the next judge does not fault the same tail on the same dog the next day. Who is right? The Standard does not describe it as a fault. Should it be faulted under the section in the Standard called GAIT? It states "Faults in gait, whether viewed from front, rear or side, are to be considered very serious faults. The problem with that is I have seen many dogs with the above mentioned "faulty" tail, gait without apparent interference from the tail`s bouncing off the hocks. Is it cosmetically displeasing of functionally displeasing? Should a person severely fault a dog for reasons other than what is called for in the Standard? Inquiring minds want to know? D.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: <candiasgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Standard- New Discussion >D.D., D.D. and All: It is an obvious 'abnormality' that was not a problem when the Standard was written for the Breed.. I don't remember it in the early years... Dead Tail syndrome, became a particular problem associated with toe dragging, in the last 25 or so years..Correct me if I am not on the exact timeline for it's appearance .. There were tails that had been 'fixed' in some of the earlier times and they appeared dead as the result of an obvious 'Botched Surgery'..The toe dragging was not associated with the Botched tail... . But this alarming condition of a flopping, dead tail , which is often associated with toe draggers, and hock walkers, gives anyone who is cognizant of the obvious abnormality to penalize it as being unnatural and it's possible consequences are very disturbing for the welfare of the Breed now and in the future. I personally think the Standard should be amended to consider it and rate it as a Very Serious Fault.. JMO barb Williams ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================