In a message dated 6/2/2006 4:50:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- Msg: #5 in digest From: PUD709@xxxxxxx Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:38:28 EDT Subject: Re: Same Day Speicalties "For or against?" feedback need I am FOR-AGAINST it. Depending on the part of the country where those shows would be held. I've judged in parts of the country where the weather is lovely and those are a possible. I've judged in parts of the country where the weather would be outrageous for the dogs to go a second time. One I remember is in the Northeast in August where I poured ice down my shirt to keep from passing out. Subjecting dogs to another go around would be brutal. I hv read so many times on this list that it is all about the dogs. You are right! If you have to go home-GO BUT DONT SUBJECT THE DOGS TO another whole day in the crates and then showing for a second time to accommodate the exhibitors. If you have to go home-go! Your dog's health is more important than a few points. Also consider the second judge who wont be seeing the dogs the way the first one did.. I've changed my mind-IM AGAINST IT Marion Lawrence I AGREE WITH MARION. It is not good or comfortable or pleasant for the dogs.. These German Shepherds are athletes... It is not good for them to be crated and carted about for several days for the convenience of the people.. If we are cramped we can get up and walk..if we are hot we can get a cool drink. if we are tired, we can STRETCH OUT in bed... The dogs are our 'Captives'... some people are thoughtful Care-Takers and some are not!!! Dog Shows come and go...it's a people thing....Shows are not the Be-All and End-All for our Shepherds...We should keep their well-being and comfort and health uppermost in mind...JMO Barb Williams ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================