But if you do?your research, you may find other dogs that have utilized some of these names and have produced very nice dogs. Look at CH. O'Danny Boy of Heinerburg. He is a Dallas son who is better than his dad IMO. Look at Danny's brother and sister, excellent dogs. Look at what Danny produces, very very nice. Which is what we want our studs to do, produce better than themselves, same for our bitches. Don't write the dog off because some movers & shakers are playing politics. And I am of the opinion that a champion is nice but to?me producing an outstanding specimen is more important. Don't cross your fingers, do the research and if the judge can't recognize a good dog or only sees the other end of the leash, do what you can to make sure they get no more entries from you. Join your local club and put them on the never at our show list. And most of all Don't be kennel blind, see your dogs faults and learn. Paulette's right if you are bothered by something, work to change it. Pam Msg: #7 in digest From: antonio ybarra <antybo0@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: showgsd-l Digest V2 #1827 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:49:34 -0600 > Why do so much research? Just breed to any of the dogs of the 3K's, Kenlyns, Kismet's, or Kaleef and you will have your winner. But make sure to use the same top handlers from this kennels, and for sure you will have a champion. If you don't have the money to do it this way, then research a lot, and cross your fingers something showable can come out of you breeding. Good Luck Antonio _________________________________________________________________ ** ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================