Pat: re your dog on Proin, I had a rescue with constant incontinance a spayed bitch about one year old. Her incontinance must have been what caused her to be in a rescue situation. She was diagnosed with a persistent hymen and the vet performed a Bouginage. She was put on Proin for life. Have had no more problems. She stayed on the Proin and is not about five years old. My vet tells me this could be caused by other than the persistent hymen and he did quite a bit of investigation A little expensive but doubt that surprises you Marion Nielsen Halwend@xxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================