Well all i can say is that IF it was one of my buyers I would give them the option of bringing the dog back to me and i will give them another or if they did not want a replacement I would tell them to do what was best for them but to keep their vet involved. Not all people can afford a $2000 wagon and remodel the house for the pet :o( So now another question would be asked, What would i do with the dog if it returned? my answer, Don't ask! loving all my able bodied babies Maria Fabrik Whispawillow German Shepherds www.whispawillowkennels.com 1-306-287-3418 Shepherds for show, work and play ----Original Message Follows---- From: Colleen Donnelly <gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx> To: crystaridge@xxxxxxx, whispawillow@xxxxxxxxxxx CC: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V1 #331 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 00:19:53 -0500 (EST) Wowzers!! It was one question I never got answered you got all weirded out by...what would you say to the puppy buyers that ended up with a dog with DM. Colleen * wishing she was GOD but knowing she is only a close relative* Moi, Colleen Donnelly Crystaridge <crystaridge@xxxxxxx> wrote: Sorry Colleen ---- I really don't know just WHAT axe it is you are trying to grind here, but all I can say is 'get a life'. YOU ARE NOT GOD!!!!!!! I will NOT be replying to anymore of your ridiculous emails as I am sure that the Admin will cut us off if this idiocy continues. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Donnelly To: crystaridge@xxxxxxx ; whispawillow@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V1 #331 But it is STILL workable ladies!!!!!!!! Good heavens Sylvia!!!!!!!! What does you having bringing in any other people to this converstaion have to do with YOU being responsible for your dogs.??? What a silly retort. You never did answer my question as to what you would say to puppy buyers that their dogs came up with DM . ( you should be able to stand on your own I would think ) ACK!! Crystaridge wrote: THANK YOU DARLIN' At least there is someone out there that understands. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Whispawillow German Shepherds" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:50 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V1 #331 > If you have ever been to Sylvia's place you would totally understand her > reasoning. As for improvising for herself. Well I have been to Sylvia's > place a few times and I can only see one solution to her personal problem > come a day she finds herself in need of a wheel chair (god forbid) and that > would be to put the place up for sale :o( then not only will she loose her > home but so would the many beautiful mobile shepherds that rely on her > everyday. > > On that note I personally understand her circumstances and if she ever had > to sell the place i will be there :o) I would love to go back to the island > to live. > > Cold in saskatchewan > Maria Fabrik > Whispawillow German Shepherds > www.whispawillowkennels.com > Shepherds for show, work and play > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Msg: #4 in digest > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:54:37 -0500 (EST) > From: Colleen Donnelly > Subject: Re: How to destroy the breed in three generations > > As I said, you'd work around it for yourself. So why not the dogs. > > Colleen Donnelly. > Crystaridge wrote: > If you saw our property, you would understand what I am saying. The HOUSE > AND DECKS are not the problem --- > the property is the problem. > > Sylvia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colleen Donnelly" > To: ; ; > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:10 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How to destroy the breed in three generations > > > >"Yes, I know, some get hooked up to those carts, which are > >wonderful, but they don't work for dogs that are in > >a location such as we are in." > > > >Sylvia, unless you live in a house on stilts ( and even then ) , your > location would work just as well as anyone else's. Build a ramp ( you did > say you were wobbly, so you as well may need one soon ) , clear a room of > the non-senient's like an end table or two. Work around the problem, just as > you would do for yourself. What would you tell your puppy buyers if this > came up? > > > >Colleen Donnelly > > > >Crystaridge wrote: > >Our first male was about 3/4 German and we lost him to DM at 11 years of > >age. We lost his daughter with DM at > >around 10 years of age and one of her daughters went with the same thing > at > >about the same age. Our Lori's daughter, > >Crystaridge's Absolute Miracle, CD (remember her???) just died of old > >age. Was getting a bit wobbly towards > >the end, but it wasn't DM ---- well, certainly didn't look like it. She > was > >well over 15. I'm getting a bit wobbly too, and > >I don't have DM. > > > >It's out there and unfortunately we don't usually KNOW that it is there > >until these dogs have produced. It would be > >a wonderful thing if they can finally get DNA markers for this insidiuous > >problem. The part of this that is so very sad is > >the fact that these dogs are as healthy as can be, and if they were humans > >they would go into a wheelchair to live out their > >lives. Yes, I know, some get hooked up to those carts, which are > >wonderful, but they don't work for dogs that are in > >a location such as we are in. > > > >Sylvia > >Crystaridge German Shepherds > >http://www.geocities.com/crystaridgegsd/ > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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